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mike001

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posted April 12, 2001 03:17 AM

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i'm not being an ass. i am just freaked out! and it seems no one gives a shit.
to make a long story short; i have been doing delt injections for a while and about 2 weeks ago i fucked up((turning the needle while inside the muscle on accident)) well, when i pulled it out blood went everywhere! 20 seconds later my shoulder goes numb. it is the skin that went numb, feels the same as your hand falling alseep. it has been 2 weeks and it is still numb!! when i touch the skin, all i feel is pressure. WHAT CAN THIS BE!? i have another injection day tomorrow. maybe i should skip this delt and do the other delt instead. please, someone help me!
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YAKUZA

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posted April 12, 2001 03:19 AM

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I really don't know, maybe you nicked a nerve?? I did once in my glute, and my cheek jumped halfway up my back. It was kind of numb for a little while, but not like that.


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smr91481

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posted April 12, 2001 03:20 AM

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im not a doctor bu tits been 2 weeks and your still numb. that cant be good. shoot in the ass. seems to me its safer.


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mike001

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posted April 12, 2001 03:25 AM

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see, i dont want to go to the damn doc either and say, "yea i stuck a needle in my shoulder, whats wrong with me" they also keep the shit on record! i really dont know what to do. it really feels fucked having a numb shoulder. i know i had hit a nerve and really fucked it up, but im just not sure exactly what i did to it or how long this shit lasts..
bump please!!
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bigkraut

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posted April 12, 2001 03:25 AM

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Man, get that checked out. If it's still numb after all of this time you may have damaged a nerve. Oh. and don't shoot anything else in there until you know it's o.k.


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gettingdiesel

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posted April 12, 2001 03:27 AM

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Dont' shoot there again. I have had similar reactions and they usually go away. And it takes time. What gauge are you using this can make a big difference in the delt. I recommend 23g, but it also depends on what you are shooting and how much.


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YAKUZA

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posted April 12, 2001 03:28 AM

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Go to the doc. Lie to him if you have to, but go. Tell him someone shot you with a blow dart. He won't believe you, but who cares. You need to get it checked.


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Carnie

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posted April 12, 2001 03:31 AM

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Go to a sports medicine doc...usually they are cool with it...also, you hit a nerve, it will heal in time, the swelling and pressure is probably just internal from bleeding you probably hit a vein too. The artery runs medial to the delt so it's not arterial. Depending on the nerve damage it could take some time. But see a doc...they are there to help not bust.


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PINDROP

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posted April 12, 2001 03:32 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by YAKUZA:
Tell him someone shot you with a blow dart

Hilarious. Thats an excuse to save for when you really need an out...."baby..I wasn't out with that other girl...I got shot with a blow dart.",.. Nice.


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Carnie

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quote:
Originally posted by PINDROP:
Hilarious. Thats an excuse to save for when you really need an out...."baby..I wasn't out with that other girl...I got shot with a blow dart.",.. Nice.



LOL...sounds like when my friend shot me in the leg at 15..."MOM I SWEAR, I was riding my bicycle, fell off and landed on a stick that went into my leg" !!!!


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PINDROP

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posted April 12, 2001 03:43 AM

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Carnie...We would make them out of needles and Q-tips. Just in case the doctor says..."can you describe the blow-dart son?".
My friends would be wearing those things like jewelery.


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kerks24

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posted April 12, 2001 04:47 AM

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Are you dumb or stupid? Two weeks of numbness? GO to a fuckin doctor JEEZE!. There is a thing called patient-doctor confidentiality.


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nexus7

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posted April 12, 2001 04:50 AM

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Mike - definitely go to the doc man - the patient/doc confidentialty kerk refers to is a fact...


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YAKUZA

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posted April 12, 2001 05:02 AM

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Only problem is that they will put it on your medical charts. It could come back to haunt you with your insurance in the future. They'll try to blame any problem you have on AS use and not pay for it. Still lie and use the blow dart excuse.


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despot_kungfoo

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posted April 12, 2001 05:02 AM

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has someone told you to go to the doctor ?

//despot - just for the kicks


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ironmaster

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posted April 12, 2001 05:36 AM

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Mike, I won't tell you the doc thing....yet. I've experienced this twice. Last time I was in a hurry and got up too high on the quad. Hit a nerve or tendon, I felt it crunch going in, but fired anyway. It was numb in my hip area for a month, with considerable quad pain, but it went away. The boys are right, if you use insurance, it will be provided to the MIB, which all major insurance companies suscribe to. Follows you around like bad credit. If you go, pay cash.


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nexus7

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posted April 12, 2001 05:39 AM

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If a excuse is what you need, why not say u inject vitamin B - is that illegal?


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PINDROP

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quote:
Originally posted by nexus7:
If a excuse is what you need, why not say u inject vitamin B - is that illegal?

You see both "the forest and the trees" nexus, I think the rest of us should take this time to tell ourselves "Duh".
Nice brain yo!


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strengthmonster

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posted April 12, 2001 06:49 AM

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Sounds like a nerve to me, but see the doc. Was the delt shot done downwards or sideways. I hear that doing them from the side increases the chance of hitting bone, which is supposedly really painful.


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nyironman

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posted April 12, 2001 08:52 AM

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carne's right see a sports doc and also dont use anything more than a 27G insulin pin.personally i only hit the delts with a water base like winny with that guage and never had a problem.



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mike001

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posted April 12, 2001 02:35 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by kerks24:
Are you dumb or stupid? Two weeks of numbness? GO to a fuckin doctor JEEZE!. There is a thing called patient-doctor confidentiality.

better watch how you put things. but it doesnt bother me.
anyway, the doc thing, i went last year to get a blood test and my liver enzimes were elevated 12x to normal, so they asked me about steroids. Stupid me told them the damn truth. so EVERY since then, i go to the doc and they ALWAYS! ask, "how long did you take anabolic steroids"? umm.. 8 weeks.
my insurance is KAISER, go figure huh. thanks for the replies. i am just alittle freaked and dont want to go to the doc. because of all this shit(future ect..) i guess i may have hit a nerve, i really hope i did!
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mike001

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posted April 12, 2001 02:39 PM

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oh, strengthmonster,
when i shot it, it was STRAIGHT in from the side. maybe alittle above the head of my upper tricep. this is fucked up man


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solidspine

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posted April 12, 2001 02:45 PM

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You cut some small vessels including a nerve, it will not necessarily heal on it's own, go see a neurologist and most likely, he will give you an injection yes, into the same site that will close the nerve tear.

Even if you didn't tear or cut a small nerve, the injection is likely. It is unlikely that you severed a nerve, your hand, wrist and arm would shake like a fish in a boat.

Stick your self in the ass, fewer areas of concern, and if you make a mistake, you simply end up with a numb ass for a month or two.

Time heals everythng.


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Rock_Man

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posted April 12, 2001 02:56 PM

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Qiute frankly mike001, you have two options.

1. Live with it and hope it gets better and maybe take some pain killers if it gets sore and never inject there again.
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2. See your doc, tell him you were helping a friend repair a deck or something and that you were hit in the shoulder with a a board that had a nail in it.

I don't see any other way around it.

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ROM

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posted April 12, 2001 03:31 PM

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I did the same thing a while ago!!!
When you moved the needle the chance of slicing a nerve with the tip of the needle is pretty high. The tip of the syringe is not just pointy but you can slice skin if used on an angle. You cut a nerve. I stopped doing delt injections on my last cycle because they were a bitch due to the angle needed. It's easier for a friend to do it but at certain times I was solo at the day of. My shoulder killed when I screwed up my very last delt injection and sounds like I did the same thing you did. Mine only lasted a little more than a week though. Just use the other one ! I inject everything into my thighs now and it works fine.

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ROM

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I did the same thing a while ago!!!
When you moved the needle the chance of slicing a nerve with the tip of the needle is pretty high. The tip of the syringe is not just pointy but you can slice skin if used on an angle. You cut a nerve. I stopped doing delt injections on my last cycle because they were a bitch due to the angle needed. It's easier for a friend to do it but at certain times I was solo at the day of. My shoulder killed when I screwed up my very last delt injection and sounds like I did the same thing you did. Mine only lasted a little more than a week though. Just use the other one ! I inject everything into my thighs now and it works fine.

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aburgtank

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posted April 12, 2001 03:41 PM

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obvious nerve damage, get medical attention ASAP, Bro. U still may be able to get this fixed. Good luck and get well soon, and by god stop the delt injections if ya don't know exactly how to do them safely!


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Jeff_rys

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posted April 12, 2001 03:47 PM

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it is definitly not because the needle got turned that you are in trouble. You must have hit a nerf (as some guys already said).
Normally, you can turn the needle all around, as long as you don't hit anything of course. In my opinion you use a "way to thick needle" and a "way to long needle". Don't go for more then 3/4 inch unless you really have thick muscular delts. If you used a 1 1/2 inch needle and do not have huge delts, then you where looking for problems.

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Big Johnson

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WHAT'S UP BRO? MY DAD WAS BORN IN BAKERSFIELD - EXCITING PLACE

I THINK YOU JUST SEVERED A NERVE. I HAD NERVE DAMAGE IN MY FOOT ONCE THAT TOOK EIGHT MONTHS TO HEAL. YOUR NERVE WILL NEED TO REESTABLISH A PATHWAY TO THE NERVE THAT RUNS TO YOUR BRAIN. IT CAN TAKE AWHILE, BUT YOU SHOULD BE FINE.

AS FAR AS DELT INJ GO, THE FACT THAT ITS NUMB IS JUST A BONUS. I STILL PREFER QUAD INJ OVER ANY OTHER SITE, THOUGH

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