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Cornellius

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posted April 11, 2001 10:15 PM

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Blood test show everything normal but the prolactin lvel. It�s at 20.4ng/ml, high. Will be able to have mother�s milk soon!!, lol. It has been more than 4 months since my deca/winny cycle.
My doc took a biopsy of the lump to study it.

I thought that gyno was caused by estrogen or progesterone, now I see prolactin...(?)
Why did my cycle afect the prolactin levels??


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted April 11, 2001 11:01 PM

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Eeeesh.That one totally slipped my mind.I believe progestins influence prolactin production,and in fact I believe this is the primary cause of gyno in fina users...This is one for Macro,as he may know of some anti-prolactin strategies...Macro?


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Cornellius

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posted April 12, 2001 12:59 AM

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That�s interesting. Thanks Huck.
Macro, you there???


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the truth

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posted April 12, 2001 01:25 AM

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Well, long-term lithium administration results in lowered prolactin levels, but I wouldn't recommend it. I read an abstract of a study in which a substance called AMPA (endogenous, but I'm not sure what it is--Macro?) inhibited prolactin secretion. Bromocriptine showed some promise as well. Interestingly enough, tamoxifen increased prolactin secretion.

This might also be of some help, although I don't think this substance is readily accessible.

Department of Molecular and Clinical Endocrinology and Oncology, Federico II University of Naples, Italy. [email protected]

Cabergoline (CAB) (1-[(6-allelylergolin-8 beta-yl)carbonyl]-1-[3-(dimethylamino)propyl]-3-ethyl-urea) is an ergoline derivative with potent, selective and long-lasting inhibitory activity on prolactin (PRL) secretion acting on dopamine receptors present in pituitary lactotrophes. Receptor binding studies have demonstrated that CAB has high in vitro selectivity and affinity for the subtype D2 of the dopamine receptor. In cultures of rat anterior pituitary cells, the concentrations of CAB and bromocriptine required to inhibit PRL secretory activity by 50% (IC50) were 0.1 and 3.4 nmol/l, respectively. As compared to bromocriptine, CAB was more potent in inhibiting the binding of [3H]N-n-propylnorapomorphine and it occupied the receptor for longer. These effects were observed in all areas of the rat brain. In vivo, CAB at doses of 0.125-1 mg twice weekly caused a dose-dependent suppression of PRL secretion in women with hyperprolactinaemia. CAB was shown to be significantly more effective than bromocriptine in inducing a complete biochemical response and clinical efficacy and was better tolerated than bromocriptine in the majority of patients. Notable tumour shrinkage until tumour disappearance was observed during CAB treatment in most patients with macroprolactinoma. CAB was also shown to be effective in patients resistant or poorly responsive to bromocriptine. In view of the limited data on CAB-associated pregnancies and the long half-life of the drug, it is currently recommended that women seeking to became pregnant, once ovulatory cycles have been established, should discontinue CAB therapy 1 month before they intend to conceive. However, no data on negative effects on pregnancy or offspring have been reported. The great efficacy of CAB together with its excellent tolerability makes this drug the current treatment of choice for the majority of patients with hyperprolactinaemic disorders. Very recently, the efficacy of CAB treatment has been reported in patients with acromegaly and clinically non-functioning adenomas with controversial results. CAB was also reported to have some efficacy in patients with Nelson's syndrome and Cushing's disease although these data are available only for limited case reports


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Cornellius

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posted April 12, 2001 05:37 PM

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Ok, but what�s the relation between progesterone and prolactin??


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bignuts

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posted April 12, 2001 05:48 PM

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i thought winny and deca wont give you gyno. Pleaselet me know before i start because i have dime size lump on one side


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