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mor123

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posted April 10, 2001 05:14 PM

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First cycle. This is what is available.
Finabolan
Suspension
D-Bol
Cypionate
Winny-v

I wanna watch the water retention but other than that NO HOLDS BARS. Any suggestions from you EXPERTS!? Let me know of any good experiences or bad.


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Maxx Out

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posted April 10, 2001 05:16 PM

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Did u just want to use one of them?

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mor123

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posted April 10, 2001 05:27 PM

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NO any cycle that is within reason and not out of this planet expensive. Like probably two of them at once or three with the d-bol.


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skippy

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posted April 10, 2001 05:31 PM

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don't forget yer clomid......


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skippy

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posted April 10, 2001 05:35 PM

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400-600(or more) cyp weekly(10 weeks), d-bol weeks 1-4(or 6) at 30mgs/day,... maybe cut with winny at the end?(I've never used it)...just don't forget your clomid weeks 11-13 or 14......


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mor123

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posted April 10, 2001 05:38 PM

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NICE NICE. ANyone else? Maybe something with FINA. I have heard great stuff about it and it is cheap. The cyp is really expensivo so maybe not.


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Maxx Out

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posted April 10, 2001 05:48 PM

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What skippy stated is a real nice cycle. I would do the d-bol for 6 weeks. I would also save the winny for down the road.

F=ina is a great roid but since its your first cycle, I think u should steer clear of it, its a bit harsh.

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mor123

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posted April 10, 2001 05:50 PM

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Why? The only thing your first cycle means is that I will hold my results because my receptors are clear. Hell I was thinking of suspension I won't freak out GIVE IT TO ME!!!!! ha ha!


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Maxx Out

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posted April 10, 2001 06:04 PM

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OK then:

Test Suspension 100mg weeks 1-4/100mg EOD
Test Cyp weeks 1-8 400mg/week
Fina weeks 7-10 75mg/EOD
Clomid week 11 - 100mg/day
" week 12 - 50mg/day

Also keep nolv. on hand!


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And don't come cryin to me when u feel like your ass is gonna fall off...lol.

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MUSTANG_18

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posted April 10, 2001 06:11 PM

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YOU COULD TRY THIS
WEEK****D-BOL****CYP****FINA****WINNY****
1******30MG/ED***600*********************
2******30MG/ED***600*********************
3******30MG/ED***600*********************
4******30MG/ED***600*********************
5******30MG/ED***600**75MG/EOD**50MG/ED**
6****************600**75MG/EOD**50MG/ED**
7****************600**75MG/EOD**50MG/ED**
8****************600**75MG/EOD**50MG/ED**
9*********************75MG/EOD**50MG/ED**
10********************75MG/EOD**50MG/ED**
THIS MIGHT BE A LITTLE MUCH FOR A FIRST CYCLE SO IF YOU DON'T WANT TO USE ALL THAT YOU CAN DROP THE FINA AND DO A D-BOL, CYP, WINNY CYCLE. KEEP NOLVA ON HAND IN CASE YOU START TO FEEL GYNO COMING ON AND HAVE CLOMID FOR POST CYCLE. HOPE THIS HELPS, BEST OF LUCK ON YOUR CYCLE

M18

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ultragainz

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posted April 10, 2001 08:06 PM

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well bro its your first cycle so here is what i can do for a first cycle.....the winny and fina are takin "ultrastyle"..3 weeks on 1 weeks off.....but if you have to all five roids in one cycle try this..i can make A LOT MORE cycle trust me bro i can but if you dont like these tell me....and tell me how you want them.......

wks--d-bol---cyp---susp----winny-------fina
1----25mgs--400mgs----------50mgseod-------
2----25mgs--400mgs----------50mgs----------
3----25mgs--400mgs----------50mgs----------
4----25mgs--400mgs-------------------------
5-----------400mgs----------50mgs------1cceod
6-----------400mgs----------50mgs------1cceod
7-----------400mgs----------50mgs------1cceod
8-----------------100mgseod------------------
9-----------------100mgseod--50mgs-----1cceod
10----------------100mgs-----50mgs-----1cceod
11----------------100mgs-----50mgs-----1cceod
12-------------------------------------------

or this......

wks----d-bol------cyp------winny--***susp***
1-----25-30mgs----400-----50mgseod-------
2-----25-30mgs----400-----50mgs----------
3-----25-30mgs----400-----50------------
4-----25-30mgs----400---------------------
5-----25-30mgs----400-----50-------------
6----25-30mgs-----400-----50-------------
7-----------------400-----50--------------
8-----------------400mgs----***or keep the
cycle going with the Test susp***
9----------------------------------100mgseod
10---------------------------------100mgseod
11---------------------------------100mgseod
12 -------end of cycle-----

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NO SWEAT!!! NO BLOOD!!! NO TEARS!!!
AND THATS THE BOTTOM LINE!!!!!
P.S.GAMEOVER!!!!!


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ultragainz

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posted April 10, 2001 08:10 PM

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plus bro its your first cycle and just take it easy....

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NO SWEAT!!! NO BLOOD!!! NO TEARS!!!
AND THATS THE BOTTOM LINE!!!!!
P.S.GAMEOVER!!!!!


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mor123

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posted April 10, 2001 09:22 PM

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WOW!!!! Thanks guys that is some killer cycles. Although I probably couldn't afford or last through some them(DAMN YOU SUSPENSION!!). It gives me an idea on what I want to do when.

Thanks again guys it is so hard to get info nowadays. Thanks Mustang and don't worry ultra I am always safe..... most of the time. HAHAH!

SUmmer here I come!


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mor123

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posted April 11, 2001 12:14 PM

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Ok guys. I've made my decision based on all your advice and here it goes.

MUSTANG your cycle is perfect for cost and effectiveness. Plus it won't knock me on my ass.

What do you think about comparing cyp to sus? Is one better than the other? And do you really think I'll need clomid? Since I will be tapering with the fina and winny which will hit, since there water based, when the test is knocking off?

I also have some nolvadex any suggestions on when, how, signs of gyno?


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winstrol69

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posted April 11, 2001 01:00 PM

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You said no holds barred. To keep water down just use nolva!


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The_Iron_Game

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posted April 11, 2001 01:05 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by mor123:
Why? The only thing your first cycle means is that I will hold my results because my receptors are clear.

This is not correct, and I will confirm why as soon as I know what you are talking about and your logic behind it is.

Peace


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Wombat

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posted April 11, 2001 01:35 PM

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mor123

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posted April 11, 2001 03:28 PM

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I was under the impression that as you use steroids over time your receptor sites begin to degrade. For example two human clones are used(just go with it)both eat the same, workout the same etc etc... One does 4 cycles over 2 years. The other stays clean and has never done a cycle. Then they both do a cycle together. Will the one who has never done a cycle not grow more than the one who has done 4 cycles AND hold his results better? SO if that is correct then that is what I meant by holding the size that I gained on that cycle.

Hey by the way can you look at my question on the difference between sus and cyp?

Thanks again guys


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The_Iron_Game

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posted April 11, 2001 03:43 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by mor123:
For example two human clones are used(just go with it)both eat the same, workout the same etc etc... One does 4 cycles over 2 years. The other stays clean and has never done a cycle. Then they both do a cycle together. Will the one who has never done a cycle not grow more than the one who has done 4 cycles AND hold his results better? Thanks again guys

The one who has done 4 cycles will be a lot bigger than the guy who has done no cycles so of course the guy who has done none will grow faster than the guy who has done 4. However until the other guy does 4 then the one who has done 4 will always be heavier than the guy who has done none?

We as humans cannot grow indefintely, if this was the case we would have 500lb bodybuilders. Once they get to a certain level they are only going to go up and down but never more than a few lbs increase. Look at the pros, how many years have they been the same size? Yes drugs are being more widely used now and more abused as well so todays man is different from the men of 30 years ago but for the last 10 bb's have been standing on stage at only a few lbs extra each year. You want to know how much they abuse their bodies from that extra few lbs? Is it even worth it.

Look at it like this.

You have a castle and all the properties needed to build it. Look at your body in the same way, you can build it very well but the end result you will never get bigger than the castle was meant to be. I.E your body has a natural limit and also a steroid limit. Once you reach the steroid limit you will have to expose your body to massive amounts of drugs to grow only a few lbs.

Peace

Peace


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