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ChrisInAz

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posted April 10, 2001 03:11 AM

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I'm one of those guys who can gain muscle quickly but never gets lean. Please help me out.
I've been dieting and doing cardio for months...but now I'm just stuck and it's driving me nuts.
Some muscle gain would be nice but fat-loss is my priority here.

Gear:
Winny
Primo
Sus250
Clen
Clomid
Nolvadex

Questions:
what gear...dosages and length would be optimal?
Total calories for diet?
Ratios of protein/carbs in diet?
How much cardio?
Since Primo resembles DHT is hair-loss an issue?

About me:
6-2 235lbs
probably 13-15%bf
My last cycle was about five years ago.
I've got just enough gyno to bug me and I don't want the slightest bit more regardless of gains.
I don't want to lose any hair regardless of gains.
I'm sensitive to juice. My 1st cycle I put on 30lbs using 200 deca for 12 weeks.
Later, two months of 1cc sus250 made me insane for probably six months (loved it and hated it at times)
1cc sus250 and 400cc deca/week gave me the gyno even though I was using Nolvadex.
I searched and read the archives before I posted this.
I've read 1996 WAR, Duchaines underground2, Duchaines dirty dieting, and many others.

Thanks bros!


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DNP guru

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posted April 10, 2001 03:18 AM

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you can use all the AS in the world and it's not going to get you cut without a good diet and proper training.

i'm not pushing dnp, but i'd suggest you look into it and decide for yourself. as for the gear, tell us how much you have of each and if you're planning on using it all or saving any for future cycles.

btw, your gyno was probably from the deca's progesterone aromatizing properties and not to estrogen. nolvadex only acts on estrogen.


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Jan

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posted April 10, 2001 03:24 AM

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Sustanon +500 mg / week
Primo + 300 mg / week
Winny 50 mg EOD
Clenbuterol 2-6 tabs a day
Ephedrine (E/C/A)

Length ? 10-12 weeks, same as diet. DIET IS THE MOST IMPORTANT thing in burning fat. Keep protein intake at 2,2-2,5 g for 1 kg of your weight and cycle carbo:
one day eat 300, next 600, 0, 200, 800, 400, 200, 500, 0, 200, 600, 300, 100, 400, 200, 800, etc... This is how people prepare for contest - like me.
Train hard, heavy, use cardio like bike just 2-3 times a week for 20-40 mins, it is enough, trust me. Forget on the bullshits like 20 reps in each set. No, heavy training with 6-10 reps.

Jan


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ChrisInAz

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posted April 10, 2001 03:32 AM

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Yeah this board is the first place I heard about the deca-induced gyno. I did most of my research back in 1996 and nobody ever mentioned it then in any publications.

Oh well. Like many people's gyno it looks okay normally but worse when it gets hot.
I got in a hot-tub last weekend with this chick and had to give myself a tittie-twister when I got out. No chicks have ever said anything so I can live with it...but not any more.

DNP is new to me as well..but I did do a little reading on it recently. It just sounds very toxic and I don't know anyone who has ever used it.

How well did it (DNP) work for you?

-Chris


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posted April 10, 2001 04:10 AM

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jan's suggestion looks solid. only thing is i'd cut back on the sust to only 250mg/week and up the winny to 50mg ED. i'm a huge fan of fina. it's cheap and legal and would be a perfect complement to your current stack.

if i tell you how well dnp worked for me i would sound like i'm pushing dnp use. there have been a lot of dnp testimonials on this board just in these past few days. you should look and see.


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