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injury plagued!

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posted April 10, 2001 02:31 AM

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ok I am 10 days into a test/deca cycle 500/400mg per week. I have felt weird sometimes but nothing to much this is my first cycle. I did notice an amazing pump in te gym yesterday first tim eI had it like that i felt solid. My body weight has made some drastic changes due to water retention at the weekend I gained 10lb from Fri to Sun morning and lost it again by this morning Tues by going to the toilet about 5 x per hour last 2 days. What I want to know how long before I start to notice lean gains I have my diet pretty good I work out twice per day once cardio once weights with 2 on 1 off routine.

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Big Johnson

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posted April 10, 2001 02:39 AM

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HEY BRO

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posted April 10, 2001 02:42 AM

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Yeah what test? I did sust/deca, gains came in about 3 days. On Prop/Fina/Winny they came in about 5 days.


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posted April 10, 2001 02:49 AM

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sorry guys testo 250 which is 1ml/250mgs enanth
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posted April 10, 2001 03:51 AM

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any help?

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posted April 10, 2001 04:48 AM

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enathate should have dispersed by now at 500mg/week. you should have noticed some gains at that dosage. how long have you been working out? what are you stats? if you are small and haven't trained enough before your first cycle you won't have as many androgen receptors and they won't be as sensitive. this might be a reason. or you might have fake gear.


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posted April 10, 2001 05:01 AM

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its not fake gear bro i live where it is made and cheap so no problems straight from the pharmacy i have been working out 3 1/2 years however had some breaks due to back injury maybe the receptors is the answer like i said i did feel well pumped yesterday butt hats it got a few lbs gain now but not sure if it is water again or lbm my stats 5 11 192lb bf 16% diet as follows:
Protein 269grams or 1076kcals or 58%

Carbs 65grams or 260 kcals or 14%

Fat 59grams or 531 kcals or 29%

little room for errors but pretty much 99.9%

thanks guys

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jason
I am experimenting alittle with the not so high in calorie diet as i want to lower my body fat and replace it with lean mass basically my goal is to end up some where around 200 at a lower body fat from this cycle


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posted April 10, 2001 05:06 AM

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oh shit, forgot about the diet part. the test and deca combo isn't too good for low calorie diets. you'll need a large amount of calories to get maximum gains from these AS. might as well bulk now and chose some different gear for cutting. AS like winny, primo, anavar, tren, and EQ don't require a large amount of calories for gains. you need to eat a lot more.


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posted April 10, 2001 05:17 AM

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bro I am hoping for slow lean gains rather than that fat bloated look!! I will switch to primo/anavar on week 8 along with cycling clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks of I am only at about 10 days so far just really dont want to put on any lard thanks for the input

Jason


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