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Natural Wonder

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posted April 09, 2001 08:24 PM

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A friend of mine is doing a fina only cycle for 6 wks. He's already got clomids, should he use them?
He'll be taking fina orally


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Natural Wonder

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posted April 09, 2001 08:55 PM

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Rocket

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posted April 09, 2001 09:00 PM

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You don't need clomid with you fina, But make sure you have some for after.
Rocket

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Big Johnson

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posted April 09, 2001 09:16 PM

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I'VE HEARD FINA SHUTS THEM DOWN BETTER THAN TEST, SO CLOMID WOULD DEFINATELY BE NEEDED. REMEMBER THAT HCG SHUTS THEM DOWN, TOO. SO WAIT UNTIL AFTER HCG IF YOU ARE GOING TO USE IT TO START CLOMID.

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Snuka

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posted April 09, 2001 09:58 PM

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At the beginning of my 3rd week of Fina, I realized that I hadn't had a boner in a week.

I had no Clomid and decided to stop.

After all, if I can't fuck, being big and strong ain't gonna do me much good.


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Zeke_B

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posted April 09, 2001 10:10 PM

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Clomid works because it is an estrogen
receptor antagonist. If fina doesn't
aromatize, I'm not sure how much difference
the clomid would make....however, it's
cheap.


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Stew Meat

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posted April 09, 2001 10:19 PM

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Zeke, it would work the exact same way: blocking the body's estrogen and signaling for the release of gonadotropin.

-Stew


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DNP guru

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posted April 09, 2001 10:29 PM

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he's taking fina ORALLY? he'll get 20% absorption at best. why not inject? anyway, yes he should definitely use clomid. 50mg ED during cycle and 100-100-50 for 3 weeks post.


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BruZer

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posted April 09, 2001 10:45 PM

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Injecting, I'd say yes....taking it orally...why bother.

BZR


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Zeke_B

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posted April 10, 2001 12:00 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by Stew Meat:
Zeke, it would work the exact same way: blocking the body's estrogen and signaling for the release of gonadotropin.
-Stew

Ok, but the estrogen levels won't be much
higher than normal. Does Clomid exert an
anabolic effect on those not on juice? My
guess is no. I have seen Fina recommended
as a cycle-finishing/bridging drug because
it does not aromatize and therefore won't
inhibit natural test after blood androgen
levels drop. Again, it's cheap so why not?
But, how much effect will it have?


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bleedo

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posted April 10, 2001 12:49 AM

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...fina can shut you down HARD...make sure
you've got clomid post-cycle...

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lawnsaver

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posted April 10, 2001 12:53 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by DNP guru:
he's taking fina ORALLY? he'll get 20% absorption at best. why not inject? anyway, yes he should definitely use clomid. 50mg ED during cycle and 100-100-50 for 3 weeks post.

I have been doing a lot of research on oral fina and doing it right now.

The conclusion I reached based on other's results, is that the absorbtion rate is closer to 40 or 50%.

I will be posting my updated results, so check them out.

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Stew Meat

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posted April 10, 2001 12:39 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by Zeke_B:
Ok, but the estrogen levels won't be much
higher than normal. Does Clomid exert an
anabolic effect on those not on juice? My
guess is no. I have seen Fina recommended
as a cycle-finishing/bridging drug because
it does not aromatize and therefore won't
inhibit natural test after blood androgen
levels drop. Again, it's cheap so why not?
But, how much effect will it have?



Zeke, clomid is not anabolic whether you are on a cycle or not.
Fina doesn't aromitise to estrodiol but there is a conversion to progesterone. However, the fact that it does or doesn't aromitise has nothing to do with whether it will shut down HPTA. That is a different side effect all together. With natural hormone levels shut down, HPTA can be recovered faster if you block the body's estrogen receptors in the hypothalamus. The body will sense that there is a low level of estrogen and if the androgen level isn't high, there will be a release of gonadotropin in an effort to boulster testosterone production which, in turn, will lead to restored estrogen levels.


-Stew


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Stew Meat

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posted April 10, 2001 03:21 PM

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Just got 100 pellets in about 5 minutes ago... I didn't know they had to be refrigerated...


-Stew


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