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Grizzly

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posted April 09, 2001 08:20 PM

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I used to be a big fat fuck. I started bodybuilding a little over three years ago to lose weight. Over the last three years I've made great progress and dropped bunch of fat weight and gained a bunch of muscle. Currently, I'm 6'3" 247 at about 10%. Now, I've dieted a lot over the last three years and I've even done two shows. I looked good for the shows and all, but I've never gotten a completely ripped to fuck set of abs, despite the fact that I've tried and tried and tried. In one year, if not sooner, I plan on beginning my first cycle. What I want to know is if I make it a cutting cycle(to finally get the abs I've been trying for) would I be wasting the incredible gains that come from a first cycle? Do you think that I wouldn't gain very much mass or, because it will be my first, that I'll still gain a good 20 or so pounds of lbm?


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MUSTANG_18

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posted April 09, 2001 08:34 PM

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I WOULD GO FOR A BULKING CYCLE AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE GREAT GAINS. LATER ON YOU CAN START A CUTING CYCLE AND CUT UP BUT FOR A FIRST CYCLE I WOULD BULK. JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION. BTW..247 AT 10%BF NATURAL IS A GREAT ACOMPLISHMENT, KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK! IF YOU NEED ANY HELP ON A CYCLE YOU CAN E-MAIL ME ANYTIME.

M18

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ultragainz

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posted April 09, 2001 08:39 PM

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well bro it could be good..what are you thinking of taking?see its oyur first cycle and you could gain a lot like on a mass cycle....see some people have gained 15+ pounds from primo and eca at 200mgs each for there first cycle...but iam not saying take that much if you take primo take 300mgs abd 300mgs of deca....you dont have to take primo an ddeca everyone is different so they all gain different weight....how dose your cycle look?plus a mass cycle could be good if you like maybe more chances of you gaining more weight.....its all up to you bro...

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KHawk

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posted April 09, 2001 08:48 PM

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A lot of people have a lot of opinions on this. It really depends on your personal goals. Keep in mind that on your first cycle your receptors will be "fresh" to the AS, so you will get the best gains possible off your first cycle if you do everything else right. It really depends on what camp you are in. Some say go for the test on the first cycle, while others advocate getting the so-called "permanent" gains from such AS as a Primo/Anavar stack. I do not posess the expertise to feel comfortable advising a cycle, I can only tell you my story.

I'm smaller than you, and like you used to be a fatty (6'0, 252, 27% bf). After three years of working hard, I am at 188,10% bf. I would like to get slightly bigger, but for me the personal goal is to gain a bit of quality mass while not coming out looking disproportioned (I have a weird-shaped body). Therefore, my first stack will be primo 300g/week, and anavar 35 g/day, with milk thistle and cranberry extract. This cycle should produce small but significant quality gains in the neighborhood I'm looking for, I'd guess 7-11 pounds in 8 weeks, maybe more if I am sensitive to AS.

My point is this: Do you want more size or not? If yes, then I would say hit the test (others might have a better cycle planned, but it is the tried and true "foundation" AS.) and stack if you want. I'll let the true vets advise on a cycle, just thought I'd throw my .02 cents in and tell you a similar story.
Hawk


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KHawk

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posted April 09, 2001 09:02 PM

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My bad, I forgot to mention that the primo/anavar cycle I am doing is DAMN expensive, unles you have great connections. Also, it is not really technically a "cutting" cycle, as you won't really lose much fat from it,. if any (although many have debated this recently, including stew meat, due to recent studies which have shown anavar is better at diminishing subcutaneous abdominal fat that other drugs). Sorry about that. Seems like I get on a tangent, and forgt to list the 327 things that need to be said to make the post more accurate. Good luck, research, listen to the vets, weigh all your options vs. your goals, and take care!
Hawk


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Grizzly

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posted April 09, 2001 09:55 PM

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That brings up a good point, Hawk. Yes, I definitely want more size. I'm looking to be a straight BEAST! With that in mind, I guess the best idea is to go for the beef the first time around and then cut it down.


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