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dunkin

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posted April 09, 2001 01:06 AM

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List of drugs I have taken trying to get big.
Sustanon
Finaplix
insulin
pgf2a
anadrol 50 fake
Dbal
test 200. Ok get ready to laugh My stats:
Arms 15
Chest 41-43
Bench-Best 185 8x
Age 23. weight 160 The worst part is my half brother is 21 180lb and ripped has not done half the shit i have just grows like hell.
This is very depressing. Before you flame the hell out of my lame ass think if you were born with genetics of a school girl?
Could I be diabetic or something? Train hard,eat pretty well always over 120 grams of protine a day very least. I have been training for 2 years and am not much better off then when i started. Cant seem to ever keep gains. It has got to be my genetics! Will still keep at it, saw some natural female bb and if they can get bulit over years of hard work I should be able to. God this really sucks. What should i do? Besides blow my weak ass brains out.


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Tomo

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posted April 09, 2001 01:10 AM

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drugs are only one part of growing- look at the other parts-(Training, Rest) also how many of the drugs were real- none- i dont know- the other options are things you dont want to here from me-tomo


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MUSTANG_18

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posted April 09, 2001 01:11 AM

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TAKE IT EASY ON YOUR SELF BRO! I KNOW IT MUST BE HARD WHEN YOU WORK YOUR ASS OF AND TRY TO IMPROVE YOUR BODY BUT DON'T GET TO MUCH OF ANYTHING OUT OF IT. I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS, IT MIGHT BE GENETICS ? THE ONLY THING I CAN SAY IS TO EAT LIKE A PIG, AS MUCH AS YOU CAN FIT IN TO YOUR MOUTH, TRY TO GET 2-3 GRAMS OF PROTEIN PER POUND OF BODY WEIGHT AND TRAIN LIKE A MAD MAN. IF YOU NEED ANY HELP ON DIET, CYCLE, TRAINING YOU CAN E-MAIL ME ANYTIME AND I'LL DO MY BEST TO HELP YOU OUT. OFF TO BED NOW. BEST OF LUCK BRO, KEEP YOUR HEAD UP

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jersey boy

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posted April 09, 2001 01:15 AM

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I agree, take it easy. You need much more protein than 120g./day, to start off. You can take as much juice as you want, you need NUTRIENTS TOO!!!!

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rich197

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posted April 09, 2001 01:16 AM

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I think BB is 60% Diet 30% training and 10% gear.


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dunkin

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posted April 09, 2001 01:17 AM

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Thanks guys! Most of the drugs were real. how do i know? insulin is OTC no fakes there. Finaplix cattle shit not fake. Test constant hard ons. Dbal good pumps and grew some nice breast tissue. Will have to do something because i refuse to quit. I want to be big so bad i can taste it! Think i will stop the drugs.Aslo pgf2a hurt like hell and gave me the shits. Only fake thing I have use was the a50 found out from this site it was underdosed.


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Drizzt8

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posted April 09, 2001 01:19 AM

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Listen buddy....don't get so down on yourself! Anabolic steroids are NOT magic! They are only one component of the equation involved in bettering one's physique. There are several more important variables to be examined here....Training: Do you train intensely enough...with proper form and muscle control? You need to push yourself to the limit whenever possible..go as hard as intense as possible while maintaining good form! Nutrition: Your statement of taking in 120 gms per day of protein leads me to believe that you need to do some research here...You should be taking in AT LEAST 1.5 gm per pound of bodyweight...I believe 1.5 gms is best and at least 2-3 gms while on gear. This would translate to 240 gms at the VERY LEAST which I still believe is low, especially while on gear. Rest: You should be sleeping at least 8 hrs a night in order to allow your body to rest and recuperate. These are only some of the components that are integral to success in bodybuilding..with or without gear. Even if you are plagued with poor genetics for growth, all is not lost. Follow the above principles - research and learn how to optimize each and defy your genetics! Train hard and GROW! Good luck buddy!

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NYStrip

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posted April 09, 2001 01:20 AM

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How tall are you. Don't give me that schoolgirl crap. Get the book "Supersquats," and eat everything healthy in sight. Worry about the fat later. Work on exercises that make your nuts pump and don't do anything else. Save the isolation stuff for later. Do the Supersquats routine, then do a powerlifting routine with one bench, one squat, and one dead day per week. Don't do anything else, and get a shitload of rest. You will grow, my friend.


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dunkin

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posted April 09, 2001 01:30 AM

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5,5-5,7 in there somewhere. In the past 2 months have changed my workout big time. cut workout days from 3-6 to 3peroid. Started doing deadlifts and have been able to put on about 35lb on the deadlift in about 5 weeks think thats because never really trained my legs befor.Aslo dont do more that 30 sets a week. I am sure one day will reach my goal just so hard to see others like my bro who drink hard eat like shit and do really know shit get bulit by looking at a weight.


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NYStrip

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posted April 09, 2001 01:38 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by dunkin:
[BAslo dont do more that 30 sets a week.[/B]

IMO, too many if you're not putting on the desired weight. Excluding warmups, 15 sets is enough, no more than 5 reps apiece. Like the book says, do pullovers between squat sets. Expands your chest. You've got to get your squat weight up. Do you feel like you know how to do a powerlifting squat? If not, get somebody to show you.


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dunkin

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posted April 09, 2001 11:34 AM

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Bump am intersted to hear what people think. I train at home so the only power mass movements I can do are. DB presses,Bench,Deadlift,Rows,Shoulder presses. Have a bench and 2 dumbells and a pull up bar. Aslo do lost of research on the net. Have probably done 250 hours of reading about roids on the net. Can tell you top to bottem about most of them. Still i am small as hell.


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Shane

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posted April 09, 2001 11:41 AM

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Jersey Boy hit the nail on the head. You need a hell of alot more than 120gm protein a day more like minum 220gm and you need to eat more calories and get plenty of rest.


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Beezers

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posted April 09, 2001 12:06 PM

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Drugs don't make the muslce...FOOD does. 120 grams of protein is the diet of a school girl. You arn't eating right. Period.


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dunkin

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posted April 09, 2001 12:29 PM

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120 mabey once a week. Most of the time it is at least 1 gram for erevy pound of bodyweight.


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The_Iron_Game

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posted April 09, 2001 12:33 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by rich197:
I think BB is 60% Diet 30% training and 10% gear.

That is where me and you differ.

I think bb is 100% Diet is 100% and with steroids you can make this work even better.


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Beezers

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I agree. Bodybuilding is 100% diet and that is where anabolics come in. If your diet is running at 100% efficiency and effectiveness anabolics raise that to 200% effectiveness. But if you're significantly lacking in the diet department then the is only so much AS can do...Maybe bring you to 80% effectiveness.


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DEPUTY_DOG

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ITS KINDA NEET ONCE YOU REALIZE THAT THE REAL GAINS COME FROM WHAT YOU PUT IN YOUR MOUTH NOT WHAT YOU BUT IN YOUR ASS

KNOWLEDGE REALY IS POWER....

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rich197

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posted April 09, 2001 12:45 PM

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Shit 120g of protien on gf is 5'7" 120 pound 10% bf and I have her on 250-300g of protien a day and he she is doing my exact workouts and puting my muscle like a champ with no drug so I would say 120g is not even enough for a school girl


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ajc

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Get back to the basics. Keep it simple. Get some Mass drinks (800-1000 cals) and eat, eat, eat. If you have trouble eating 6 meals, try 4 meals and 2 mass drinks.

Also, get no less than 8 hours sleep. This is where a lot of bros fail. If your eating a lot and still not gaining...I would bet you don't get 8-9 hours of sleep every night. This means you have to tell the girlfriend/wife "No" sometimes. If you have one, I hope she's understanding.

Yes, some of us have to work twice as hard to look half as good.

My .02

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RC

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posted April 09, 2001 12:54 PM

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120gms protein!! shit I eat half that in one meal alone. Listen to what the bro's are telling you.


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fistfullofsteel

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posted April 09, 2001 12:56 PM

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dunkin, how is life in new mexico? i am looking into moving there.

btw, you will grow; just give it time. i trained with some guy who wanted to bench 225 all his life and he couldn't do it. he asked me help him and so he trained with me. 3 months later he was getting 225 3X easy. the moral of the story is that it can be done. don't get depressed over it.


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Mike80

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posted April 09, 2001 01:02 PM

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you need to eat 4000-5000 kcal a day, and 300-400 grams of protien to gain muscle fast while on steroids. I have a hard time gaining mass too, but make good gains when I eat like a champ.


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evilution79

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I have a similar problem. I train hard, eat 2 grams per lb. of body weight and stuff myself silly. I have a VERY small frame. My friend who doesnt use gear only works upperbody and doesnt work legs, and doesnt do squats and deads like me and his arms are huge compared to my little guns.


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Just_Grow

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posted April 09, 2001 01:15 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by rich197:
I think BB is 60% Diet 30% training and 10% gear.


i agree 100% with you.

take it easy bro, good luck man.


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Big Johnson

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posted April 09, 2001 01:19 PM

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YOU NEED TO TRAIN LIKE A POWERLIFTER. WORK ON EATING, REST, AND THE BIG THREE. YOU WILL GROW, YOU WILL GET BIGGER AND STRONGER. NO ONE DOESN'T!

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giantset

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NYStrip, I agree with you 100% on the training routine. It's good to see some people that don't subscribe to the 8 exercises per bodypart, 30-40 set crap with 10-15 reps per set.

Everyone else covered the diet analysis pretty well but I am not sure if he really needs over 1.5g of protein per lb of bodyweight. I get by well on that amount but I guess everyone is different. I don't see how you guys get in much over 300g of protein. I do 50g per meal, 6 meals a day and that isn't easy.

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