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Frackal

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Registered: Sep 2000

posted April 08, 2001 09:22 PM

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Going to be starting first cycle soon.
Here is what I have worked out so far, the
goal of this cycle is two-fold, one a quality increase in mass, two to help finish healing a moderate muscular/ligamentous back injury.

Healing is the reason I chose winny/deca, winny for it's connective tissue strengthening effects, deca to protect against the dehydration of the winny and for it's anecdotal joint-pain properties:

Sust-Deca-Winny

1.500-300-50 eod
2.250-300-50
3.250-300-50
4.250-300-50
5.250-300-50
6.250-300
7.250-300
8.250-300

Due to the high price of winstrol I was hoping to get away with using it for only 5 weeks or so, hoping this would be long enough to take advantage of it's connective tissue strengthening effects.

Now one factor that is very important is the timing of the winstrol and deca, the winny can't kick in until the deca does, because I need deca's hydrating effects, so should I start the winny maybe at week 2 or 3? I've found conflicting info on 'kick in' times w/ winny...

Thanks. (nolvadex, clomid, liver protectors, and probably even a topical dht blocker for the hair will be used of course)


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thefacelessballer

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Posts: 671
From:im from canada eh.
Registered: Oct 2000

posted April 08, 2001 09:29 PM

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try 500mg of sust a week. i think that is as low as anyone should go.


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ultragainz

Elite Bodybuilder

Posts: 1427
From:from the underground
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posted April 08, 2001 09:34 PM

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8 week cycle....take the winny at 3 weeks on 1 week off....so winny up to week 3 week 4 off weeks 5-7 on and week 8 off...try that.

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The Canadian Oak

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From:In a Van down by the River
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posted April 08, 2001 09:41 PM

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sust is a self tapering drug you dont need to taper it

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ultragainz

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posted April 08, 2001 09:42 PM

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no sus only tapers when taking everyday

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BerkeleyJuice

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posted April 08, 2001 09:52 PM

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I think that 250 mg's of test is a little low, you could always up it to 350 or 400.


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ultragainz

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posted April 08, 2001 09:57 PM

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ya and sus only taper if taking everyday....and if i was you i would only taper in the last week of the cycle....

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MUSTANG_18

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From:canada
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posted April 08, 2001 10:10 PM

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I WOULD KEEP THE SUST AT 500MG/WEEK BECAUSE 250MG/WEEK IS A LITTLE LOW BUT YOU SHOULD STILL GROW ON THAT. INSTEAD OF 50MG/EOD YOU COULD TAKE IT AT 25MG/ED TO KEEP A "CONSTANT FLOW" IN YOUR SYSTEM, JUST A THOUGHT. OTHER THEN THAT I THINK IT LOOKS GOOD AND YOU SHOULD BE VERY HAPPY WITH YOUR RESULTS. IF YOU NEED ANY HELP YOU CAN E-MAIL ME ANYTIME. GOOD LUCK

M18

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fistfullofsteel

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posted April 08, 2001 10:39 PM

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i would go for a ten week cycle, and use the deca for the last seven weeks. i would start 1-3 week with 750 mg of sust, and throw in the 300mg deca and bring the sust down to 500 mg, and start the winny too with the deca.


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