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Chris223

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posted April 07, 2001 11:48 PM

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Hey,

My bro's is about to be a first time tomorrow, but I wanted to get everyones opinion on something. First of I think that he has a little gyno going on. Well, he's had it since he was a kid. He is going to do a 10 week cycle of Sus.250. Now he has enough for 500mgs a week, but he thinks that he wants to do 250 a week, because he is scared that his gyno will progress... What do you guys think... Oh yeah, and I going to give him some Nola that I have left over.. I have about 60, 10mg tabs... You think that he should take this threw the cycle? He me out bro's I dont what to give him bad advise, Im just not up to speed with the gyno....


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aahepp

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posted April 07, 2001 11:50 PM

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The gyno he has as a kid is not the same as AS induced gyno. There is no way that gyno cna continue, but I am not saying that AS induce gyno will not start. They are two diferent things there. Let him try the Sus at 500mg for a few weeks and see if he starts gettting the signs, if so start the nolva and reduce the mgs.


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ultragainz

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posted April 07, 2001 11:50 PM

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250mgs of sus a week...hell no bro....take at least 500mgs if not more.....and take the nolvd on weeks 5-7...and not under 500mgs of sus

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lawnsaver

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posted April 07, 2001 11:52 PM

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Tell him to take the 500mg a week and pick up more nolva and proviron or arimidex. You wont see the sides usually untill the 3rd or 4th weeks.

If he is prone to gyno, why did he get test?
He should of picked up eq or winny. Then he would have nothing to worry about. Well eq could at higher doses.

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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted April 07, 2001 11:57 PM

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If he has a genetic pre-disposition(which it appears he does)chances are it will be aggrevated by ANY substance that aromitizes,this includes prohormones as well.Tell him to hold off until he has nolvadex on hand.Don't take a gamble,because chances are,he will have a flare up since he already is pre-disposed....


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Chris223

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posted April 07, 2001 11:59 PM

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Ok, well what if he goes ahead with the 500mgs and just take 10mgs of Nolva a day?

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Originally posted by Chris223:
Hey,

My bro's is about to be a first time tomorrow, but I wanted to get everyones opinion on something. First of I think that he has a little gyno going on. Well, he's had it since he was a kid. He is going to do a 10 week cycle of Sus.250. Now he has enough for 500mgs a week, but he thinks that he wants to do 250 a week, because he is scared that his gyno will progress... What do you guys think... Oh yeah, and I going to give him some Nola that I have left over.. I have about 60, 10mg tabs... You think that he should take this threw the cycle? He me out bro's I dont what to give him bad advise, Im just not up to speed with the gyno....



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aahepp

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posted April 07, 2001 11:59 PM

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Lawn....hes not prone to gyno (or was not told that), he was a husky kid so he got the puffy titties from being over weight. Those fat deposits are hard to get rid of short or surgery. High chest routines cna give you less of an apperance of it, but will still nto get rid of the deposits.


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aahepp

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posted April 08, 2001 12:01 AM

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Huck....I had the same problem as a boy/teen. I wa sa "husky" kid and had the puffies. And have used in high extremems and still haven't had a problem. I my experiences with people with this, they are less likely to get AS induce gyno. Not that they don't really get it but don't see it because of the form already. Don't know, bodies are diffrent.


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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That is funny,because I happen to be on the opposite end of the spectrum.I had naturally occuring gyno as a teen,and anything and everything that has activity in breast tissue aggreavates me.I have had many friends and clients over the years with the exact same sensitivities.Even prohormones aggrevate the condition if no anti-estros are present.Be careful...


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aahepp

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posted April 08, 2001 12:11 AM

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Well you know my antics with suspension and if doing doeses that high of that "junk" hasn't hit me yet, I don't think anything will. At least I hope not. Even if I do get it. I think I would look very nice in a double D.
You know...some people just can't handle the sauce. But true people do need to pay attention to their bodies when using these types of items.


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Chris223

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posted April 08, 2001 12:11 AM

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Ok, then Huck and everyone... If he takes 10mgs of Nolva threw the cycle of 500mgs a week... do you all think that he would be fine?

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Originally posted by HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex:
That is funny,because I happen to be on the opposite end of the spectrum.I had naturally occuring gyno as a teen,and anything and everything that has activity in breast tissue aggreavates me.I have had many friends and clients over the years with the exact same sensitivities.Even prohormones aggrevate the condition if no anti-estros are present.Be careful...


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted April 08, 2001 12:14 AM

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10mgs/day was a little weak for me.I still noticed some aggrevation.20mgs/day has worked excellent...


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2Thick

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posted April 08, 2001 02:34 AM

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Start 10mg every other day during week 3. You should be fine.

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mrhamilton

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posted April 08, 2001 02:47 AM

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i like to add proviron to all of my cycles at 50mg every day. even for those predisposed to gyno, this seems to keep it at bay. just in case always have the nolvadex on hand, but i wouldn't start it unless symptoms show up.

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Chris223

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posted April 08, 2001 11:03 AM

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Ok, I have two of the most respectable Mod telling me close to the same thing.. So this what I think we will have him do.... He will start on week 3 and take 10mgs a day and if symp. start to show 20.. Sound good... You think that he will lose a little water for the Nolva... i would think so..


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METHYL MIKE

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posted April 08, 2001 03:25 PM

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GET SOME ARIMIDEX AND HAVE HIM TAKE 1 TAB EOD-NOLVADEX SUCKS AND WILL INHIBIT LIVERS' RELEASE OF IGF-1.


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