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bissenmir

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From:Colorado, USA
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posted April 07, 2001 08:12 PM

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I failed getting clomid, hcg, and clen before the end of my cycle. I know...I kick myself in the ass about being to "gun-ho" and starting a cycle before having everything needed. Can anyone give advice for a natural(anything sold at store) gain keeper formula? Is there any herbs out there worth spend $?
I am coming off my cycle because it seems to of stopped working. I'm going on my 8th week and had not gained a thing since 6th week.
I'm doing sus 250 1/week
and did anadrol-50 1/day first 4 weeks
week 5,6,7, did norandolona 300 1/2cc /week.
Is this a pretty good cycle?
can I change something to make it more effective? how long are most cycle?

thanks for any help


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bissenmir

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posted April 07, 2001 08:51 PM

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bump...


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gettingdiesel

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posted April 07, 2001 08:55 PM

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Keep it going if you have more stuff. Up the Sus to 500mgs per week, and stay on the Deca at 300-400 for as long as you can. Get clomid if you can by then, but your dosages are pretty low and you can still gain alot more. I'd run another 4-6 weeks if you have the gear.


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the mechanic

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posted April 07, 2001 09:16 PM

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Your dosages were too low to begin with, that is why you don`t have the gains you invisioned. Take the sus from 500 to 750 mgs per week and the deca from 300 to 400 mgs.
Don`t give up on it already.

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bissenmir

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posted April 07, 2001 11:16 PM

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not trying to bring up old news but question I have now is should I up the dose in my cycle or start over?
I have 10amps of sus still
and 60tabs of 5mg of d-ball
and 40tabs of 50mg of anadrol
and 3cc of deca 300mg
and getting liquid fina 40cc 75mg.
should I do what ya dudes said or incorparate some of my other gear.
I don't have nolv,clomid,hcg,or clen thanks to customs.
and is there any out there(natural) that will subsitute clomid?
thanks


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BIG BOBBY

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posted April 07, 2001 11:24 PM

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Just stay on the sauce year round , then u wont have to have clomid for awhile. jk just up the sust to 500 for the last few weeks and u will have plenty of time to get some clomid. Cant take the clomid until about 3 weeks after last shot anyway.


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madbomber31

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posted April 08, 2001 12:12 AM

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ok... the guys above are giving advice for staying on the gear... which is great... but you will have to come off at one point... will you have the shit you need if you come off in 6 weeks?

if you dont... here is what i suggest and think works great...

multivitamins....
tribulus terrestis (increases LH)... take LOTS of it...
dont spend all your cash on tribestan, just go with the cheap gnc shit and take 6 caps a day or so...
if you CAN afford it, use some P.S. about 2-300 mg per day... its expensive...

i've always done well with the tribulus coming off gear... try to keep all stress to a minimum...


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bissenmir

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posted April 08, 2001 12:54 AM

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madbomber what is P.S.? Is tribestan a bran name?


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lawnsaver

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posted April 08, 2001 02:20 AM

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Tribistan is the best brand. www.dpsnutrition.com has it the cheapest.
Ps is phosphadytleserine, this blocks the secretion of cortisol.

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2Thick

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posted April 08, 2001 02:20 AM

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Nothing over the counter will work effectively. Just hope and pray that you don't get gyno.

Some people think that Clomid is overrated so you might just luck-out in that respect.

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bissenmir

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posted April 08, 2001 03:31 AM

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How do ya know if your going to get gyno?
Sorness or by waking up on morning w/DD. he..he


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The_Eviscerator

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From:Chandler AZ
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posted April 08, 2001 01:53 PM

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You said you gains stopped at 6 weeks with the dosages you had... If you don't want to take more drugs and if you had clomid and HCG, you would be much better off to do 4 weeks take two months off to recover and then 4 weeks again. I have used this method for three years now (2 1 month cycles 2 years ago and two last) and I have gained 35 pound of muscle. All these 12 week, 16 week cycles waste too much gear and leave you in a deep depression that leaves you struggling to keep working out and staying focused. I have never had to worry about sides and depression since I started doing them this way. Everybody knows the bulk of your gains come in the 4th 5th or 6th week, then you have to double you dosages and your risk of side effects to get anything. Doesn't make sense to me.

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