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Fener

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posted April 06, 2001 07:52 PM

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i got the flu for the second time 8 hours after injecting. let my explain things. i'm in the beginning of my third week of my prop/eq/primo cycle.i inject eod like this:
day 1:150mgs prop,100mgs eq,100mgs primo
day 3:100mgs prop, 200mgs eq,100mgs primo
day 5:150mgs prop,100mgs eq,100mgs primo
day 7:100mgs prop,200mgs eq
day 9: repeat
i got the flu frist 2 days ago in day 7 so i know it is not from the primo, fever was moderatly high. it went away in 24 hours, so then today i did the day 1, and bam! very high fever and maybe hit a nerve. yes that's right, i cant walk on the side of the glute i injected and i have stiff neck. Strange thing the pain came suddently alltogether within 10 minutes (no pain at the moment of the injection), exactly 8 hours after the shot contemporary with the fever. I think i have to stop the cycle if i don't find where this shit comes from. The only thing that was different from the other times the first day i got the flu is that i opened i new bottle of eq. I ' dont know if it is form the eq though because the first time i injected 2ccs and the fever was milder than when i injected 1cc. But the testosterone was more the second time so that brings me to think it was the prop. Please help me out, if i don't find the cause i will surely stop the cycle. Fever is too high this time (42 degrees celsius) and that's enough to risk you life.


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Big Wiggs

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posted April 06, 2001 07:53 PM

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Go see a doctor bro. Quick!


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bigdog9

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Dude you are on the computer. You need to get to the doctor now. It sounds like you have an infection. Maybe from one of the things you were injecting. hope everything turns out ok.


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Fener

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waht the hell i 'm i supposed to say to the doc? i injected a veterinary steroid and got the fever, than i did it again 2 days after and got it even worse. He's not gonna do anything form me. Fever is going down a little ( i'm taking paracetamol) and it 'll go away, the thing is that i wouldn't want to stop the cycle but i will have to if i don't find the cause for this.


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I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS WRONG BUT PLEASE GO SEE A DOC AS SOON AS POSSABLE !! BE SAFE AND LET US KNOW WHAT HAPPENS

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Dude,
He has to help you. He can't turn down a patient in need of medical care, and he can't tell on you for what you are doing either. Hell, if he does, sue him and enjoy juicing on his money for the rest of your life. Above all, GO TO THE DAMN DOCTOR!!!
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Fener

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thanks guys but i don't see what the docs could do to me at the emergensy room(i 'm in the middle of the night here). You know most docs don't know anything about steroids. the fever is going down a bit, i took 500mgs of paracetamol along with 700mgs of aspirin. i 'm wearing to pair of evgerything ( sosk pants, sweatshirts) and i'm sweating the shit out. I thought i could be an ifection but what the hell just 8 hours after injecting, and twice. souds like an allergic reaction. i told you firs time i got it when i opened a new bottle of eq but it was identicall to the previous, and got it for the same guy. could be form the prop (quantity pattern make me supoose this) but why in the third week?


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Fener

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posted April 06, 2001 08:14 PM

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i meant i'm wearing 2 pairs of socks, pants...


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posted April 06, 2001 08:34 PM

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bump


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ironbarbarian

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posted April 06, 2001 08:53 PM

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UMMMM, I GOT HIGH FEVER AND I BAD THROAT WHEN I INJECTED SUSTANON FOR THE FIRST TIME. I WENT TO SEE THE DOC, BUT I DIDNT TELL HER I WAS ON GEAR.

WHAT HAPPENS SOMETIMES IS THAT YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM GETS WEEK WHEN YOUR BODY IS GETTING CUSTOMIZED TO THE GEAR. SO EVEN THE MOST WEAK DISEASES THAT NORMALLY WOULDNT DO SQUAT TO YOU HIT YOU HARD COS YOUR BODY DEFENSES ARE DOWN.

I SUGGEST, YES GO TO THE DOC, BUT DONT TELL HIM YOUR TAKING GEAR. I'M SURE THERES NO NEED TO TELL HIM THAT AND ONCE A FEW WEEKS PASS LETS HOPE THAT PROP TEST DOSENT AFFECT YOU MORE. KEEP US POSTED.

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Mask

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posted April 06, 2001 09:16 PM

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Dude, go to the doctor. What happens between you and the doc is confidential.


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posted April 06, 2001 09:21 PM

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Doctor/patient confidentiality is not absolute.

You should see a doctor, but unless you know he's sympathetic to AAS use, I wouldn't tell him about your juicing. Don't go to the ER if at all possible--try to see a private doctor (preferably someone who's connected to a medical group) on an emergency basis.

It's possible you just have the flu and it may have nothing to do with juicing.

Good luck.


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The_Eviscerator

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posted April 06, 2001 09:23 PM

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Vetrinary Steroids are for animals... Use good shit not crap designed for animals.

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Fener

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posted April 06, 2001 09:25 PM

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yeha, i thought also i cold be just flu. But the fever precisley 8 hours after injection sounds strange to me.


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Green

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I wouldn't freak out over it. Worrying is only going to make it worse. If you think you need to see a doc, go. If you think you can wait it out then I would. Sit in a cool shower (not cold, shock) and bring your core temp down to play it safe. If the fever came, left and came back I'd say it doesn't sound like an infection. Most infections I've read about has a different pattern/characteristics than this.

Later,
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posted April 06, 2001 09:28 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by The_Eviscerator:
Vetrinary Steroids are for animals... Use good shit not crap designed for animals.


If you have any of these, send them to me
and I will dispose of them immediately.


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Fener

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the eviscerator, if you find any form of human desined boldenone let me know. unfortunatley i don't think you will. And green the temp is under control know. i too think it doesnt sound like an infection but i'm wandering what the hell it is.


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hammercurl

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Go to a doc and tell him the truth.
How is he/she going to help you without all the facts?
Have you gotten a fever from primo before?
I've never heard of that before.

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The_Eviscerator

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I would never use or buy horse roids. There are too many impurities and added estrogen in a lot of these products. One thing you have to remember, Horses can't sue a pharmaceutical manufacturer, people can. So who gives a fuck if a horse gets sick.

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quote:
Originally posted by Fener:
the eviscerator, if you find any form of human desined boldenone let me know. unfortunatley i don't think you will. And green the temp is under control know. i too think it doesnt sound like an infection but i'm wandering what the hell it is.

There are so many good human drugs out there, why risk sickness and infection? ....Unless of course this is all you can get. I mean... I am not trying to be an asshole, but it seems silly to risk your health.
By the way, it isn't the primo. Primo is a great safe "human" drug. (Unless of course your stuff is fake, but I give you more credit than that.

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Fener

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posted April 06, 2001 09:53 PM

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never got the flu from primo


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BSmooth

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Drink lots of fluids and just chill out. If it went away the first time within 24 hours, hopefully it will go away a second time. You know what your body is like when it's sick.

You will know it if you feel bad enough to go to the hospital.


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horakeelsnevash

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If you dont see a doctor, the least can do is throw all that shit out and start again.Who knows what you have there.That seems really strange.Also check your thermometer,if Im not mistaken 42 degrees is as near to fatal as you would want to get.


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horakeelsnevash

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posted April 06, 2001 10:18 PM

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Hey Fener, check out ripped 103 thread from today at 945hrs.


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hey bro,seems like you got an infection from some of the gear. and don't wear a bunch of clothes when you have a fever that is how you get pneumonia, yes i am in the medical field but can't answer your ?. go to your family md and let him know what's up and let him run some test(cbc-chem panels) and see if anything shows up.elevated wbc's(fight's infection) or what. kinda sounds like menigitis with the stiff neck and fever and all. be careful bro if this hang's around may be some bad shit. get checked, later and good luck duckster

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one time when i used a sust rediject in my quad and my whole left side froze up for two days i had to leave work and couldnt walk for three days i was scared shitless, but i didnt have any fever, id go to the doc they dont care what your on youll just have to sit through a lecture on how AS are bad for you but at least youll live


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Bro, the last thing you want to do when you have a fever is induce more heat on your body. Take those clothes off and go take a cold shower. Believe me i know what I am talking about. Your body my be shivering and so forth, but what you need to do is remove anything that may cause your body to get ever hotter, raising your temperature more. When you have a temperature as high as yours, the best thing to do is keep the body cool...cold.. Thats will help in bringing the temperature down. Hope this helps bro. Good luck


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Bro,

It's called doctor patient confidentiality, whatever is said between you and the doctor stays between you and the doctor. This is a law in which every doctor does practice or else they will be immediately out of practice. Get some help that is your bodies acute response to an antigen possbly a contaminated ampule. If it's viral you will probrobly be under acute care to get the fever down, but my guess it is bacterial. Viruses are to susceptable to being desroyed with temperature diffentiations and primarily need an immediate host to sustain life. Bacteria can grow in almost in any temperate condition and is everywhere. See a Doc, you can't get large and in charge with out your health.


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posted April 07, 2001 12:54 AM

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Cool your body down bro do not sweat it out .


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Surf&lift-

Sounds like you hit your SCIATIC nerve. That happened to friend of mine before. What size needle did you use? Where exactly did you inject?

You have to be really careful about that bro.


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Dude, Im not sure that you know what you had.... You need to see the doc..... I would just to be on the safe side....good luck


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I WILL TELL YOU WHAT IS WRONG BECAUSE IT HAPPENED TO ME LAST YEAR. I INJECTED 1 AMP AND THE NEXT DAY FLUE AND I COULDN`T WALK BECAUSE I THOUGHT I HAD HIT A NERVE.THE WEEK AFTER DID THE SAME AND EXACTLY THE SAME THING HAPPENED. A WEEK LATER I GAVE THE REST OF MY AMPS TO A FRIEND.GUESS WHAT HAPPENED THE DAY AFTER HE INJECTED THE SAME SHIT. WE CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THE STUFF WAS FAKE AND MUST BE THE MOST UN STEARILE SHIT ON THE MARKET.THERE IS SOME RIGHT ARSE HOLES IN THIS WORLD TO SELL THIS SHIT KNOWING THAT SOMEBODY IS GOING TO INJECT THERE SELF WITH THE SHIT!!! I CAME OUT OF THIS WITH A ABSCESS IN MY THIGH WHICH CLEARED UP IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. AND IF I KNEW IT WAS THE AMPS THAT WERE DODGY NO I WOULDN`T HAVE GAVE THEM TO MY FRIEND

GOOD LOOK.


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quote:
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Vetrinary Steroids are for animals... Use good shit not crap designed for animals.


That is the lamest pile of horse shit I have ever heard.

I would as everyone else has recommend you go and see a doctor.

5 Grams of vitamin C daily wont do any harm though, glutamine as well but you are probably getting enough of this from mrps and protein shakes.


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I spoke very recently to a Bro in Australia suffering viral meningitis. It can come on from a direct viral invasion or hypersensitivity started by a virus or other foreign protein. You put something foreign in and got sick. The trick is to decide whether care is needed in a docs office. Viral can last for many days and should be differentiated from bacterial which can be treated medicinally. You ride viral out or use supportive theraoy like balancing fluid levels with out overhydrating. High fever for long periods=docs office Bro.


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Fener

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ok thanks guys, temp is now down to 36 degrees. i feel much better now. my leg is not paralized anymore, but i still have the stiff neck. My eq is real, i know that because i 'm starting to see the vascularity from it. The only different thing is that i opened a new bottle, even though it is identical to the others i was using i'll just throw it away and open a new one. I 'm just wandering if it came from ther prop (wich i've been using for 2 weeks with no problem and took out from the pharmacy myself). Don't know.Next week i'll try small quantities of everything in different days (like 0.5cc), to see if i find out what gives me the reacion. What do you think?


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Because you were able to lower your fever does not mean it will not come back. Please be very careful with prolonged fever. Heaven forbid you passed on Bro... THAT'S prolonged!


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Fener

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no fever at all now. It obviously was some kind of reaction. I just have to find out to what and why.


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Fener

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ok i 'm pretty good know. Tomorrow i should inject 100mgs of primo, 100mgs of prop, and 100mgs of eq, but i think i'll just try 50 mgs of prop and see what happens. If nothing happens the day after i'll rty just 50mgs of eq and wait. Do i gues i'll find out the culprit.


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Your subjective conclusion that your EQ is real just because you think you see vascularity from isn't something I'd base my opinion on. How do you know the EQ caused it? Maybe your just imagining things (placebo). Half the fuckers in the gym I lift at think that they're getting bigger and more cut, but in actuality, nothing is happening to them (they have bad diets, crappy routines, and crappy genetics. They are just deluding themselves.

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Fener

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i know the eq is real because it is working, and the scale is going up with same bf. Anyway this doesn't expalin why 2 identical bottles can be so different.


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