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Da Mad Phatta

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posted April 06, 2001 05:23 PM

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I'm doing a cutting stack for summer, and it consists of this:

Winny V: 50 mg's ED for 7 weeks

T3: starting the second week of winny 11112222333344444333332222211111

Clen/ECA: Goin up to 10 a day alternating between the two every 2 weeks

Deca: 300mg's a week (rotator cuff is KILLING me)

Any problems with the cycle? Is there any supplements that i should be taking to ease my body through this other than milk thistle? Thanx...


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lawnsaver

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posted April 06, 2001 05:41 PM

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I like it. Keep diet clean and hit the cardio. Keep workouts lighter. That will take pressure off your shoulder.

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Da Mad Phatta

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posted April 06, 2001 06:00 PM

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thx, any supplements to suggest?


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The Man Child

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posted April 06, 2001 09:53 PM

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I'm impressed, that looks like a well thought out cycle. Nice job!!

One suggestion; You may want to add a Test in there because T3 eats at the muscle like nothing else....I know what your thinking, well I already have Deca/Winny in there, that should be enough. Just some advice, get some Test in there...


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Da Mad Phatta

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posted April 07, 2001 12:24 AM

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got some thistle... wut else do i need?


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Da Mad Phatta

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posted April 08, 2001 09:07 PM

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Just two questions... I was reading some posts on how Deca shuts down natural test production. Is this true? And if it is true then will I have negative affects with just doing 300 mg's of deca a week. (the deca is for my rotator cuff injury) Is there going to be a major rise in estrogen level's after the cycle is done?

Is there a MAJOR need for some test in my cycle. Wut I have learned is that 50 mg's of winstrol will block out most of the T3's catabolic effects on my muscle.


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bigtbone

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posted April 08, 2001 09:34 PM

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Yes, deca will shut down natural test levels but the winny will do that anyways so it doesn't make a difference. You will be fine will 300 mg/week. I had rotator-cuff problems and it allowed my to still train heavy without pain and without furthering the injury. Go to a sports rehab place and buy some of those elastic bands used for rehab (they cost about $5). Have them show you some rotator-cuff exercises with them and perform those after delt workouts.

My shoulder pain only returns when I quit doing my rotator-cuff exercises with those bands.

Good luck!


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BerkeleyJuice

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posted April 08, 2001 09:54 PM

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Clomid?


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Da Mad Phatta

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posted April 08, 2001 11:27 PM

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is clomid neccessary for a post winny/deca cycle?...

clomid gives your natural tests a jump start... but i've never heard of anyone doing clomid after a deca/winny cycle. But if they both shut down natural test produtction then shouldn't you use clomid???... anyone?


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Daeo

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posted April 09, 2001 01:28 AM

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Yes it is necessary to use clomid after this cycle. Also I would like to see some test or fina in this cycle. I like to err on the cautious side when it comes to using T3 and AS...

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