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Pioneer

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posted April 06, 2001 04:17 PM

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Copied this from Tottally Ripped
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Q) I am using Procepia whilst on Testosterone, is there anything I should worry about ?

A) YES, you are at a slightly higher risk of developing gyno, as you may know test can cause gyno, procepia too can cause it, you should have an anti-estrogens handy

What do you all think of this, I have never heard this before and was planning on using a test/procepia/proviron/winny for my second cycle
Proviron to stop the coverison to estrogen.

Procepia to block DHT

Winny for its high affinity to bind with SHBG (proviron will help here to) to enhance the test affects

May add nolvadex to..


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FirstTimeUser0001

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posted April 06, 2001 04:30 PM

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I was always under the impression that mixing gear w\ propecia would make you go bald a bit quicker.... not sure about they gyno though.


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Tall Dude

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posted April 06, 2001 04:38 PM

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Firsttimer - don't mean to flame you too hard, but I can't see how you could possibly think that your post is at all valuable?
Propecia helps limit the conversion of testosterone to dht, thus lessening the risk of accelerating male pattern baldness.
Therefore, using Propecia with Testosterone based cycles seems to make a lot of sense.
However, there are theories that suggest using Deca and Propecia together actually increases the probability of hair loss.

Anyway, I am curious to hear about the possibility of propecia causing an increased risk of gyno.

[This message has been edited by Tall Dude (edited April 06, 2001).]


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joeljuice

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posted April 06, 2001 04:38 PM

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Well on the prorducts info there is no mention about gyno in side effects. Some says that it may cause temporary impotense.

For what i have read, it works well with test, but not with steroids. Especially Deca and propecia are bad combo, it actually increses hairloss.

I will use proscar in my upcoming test cycle.

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FirstTimeUser0001

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posted April 06, 2001 04:40 PM

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I was misinformed... thanks for correcting me...


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Pioneer

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posted April 06, 2001 05:12 PM

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any others.............


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Tall Dude

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posted April 06, 2001 05:51 PM

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Firsttimer....i didn't mean to give you too much of a hard time, I just was trying to make a point that there is a little bit too much "tribal knowledge" that gets passed around.
Hopefully, someone can give us some facts on this topic I


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joeljuice

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posted April 06, 2001 05:54 PM

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Here are some good info taken from anabolex.com

The first path testosterone could take would be if 5alpha reductase turns it into DHT. Even though DHT has some beneficial effects on muscle gain, it is highly androgenic. DHT is the main cause of steroid's two biggest side effects: balding and enlargement of the prostate (i.e.- prostate hyperplasia).

You know enough about balding, so I won't explain why you don't want it. Basically, DHT binds to the hair follicle in your head. It causes an inflammation that in turn starves your hair of oxygen. Thus, your hair dies. Having an enlarged prostate is definitely something you want to avoid. The frequent need to urinate aside, DHT has been shown to dramatically increase your chances of getting prostate cancer. So how do you avoid this? Take finasteride. Finasteride (also known by the brand names of Proscar and Propecia) has been shown to inhibit 5alpha reductase from converting testosterone to DHT. Research has shown it to be highly effective in treating and preventing baldness and prostate enlargement. I suggest you use the brand name Fincar. Fincar is made in India. Even though it contains the exact same chemical as Proscar (5mg of finasteride), its cost is significantly less than that of Proscar. I suggest using 1 to 1.25 mg of finasteride a day for every 500mg of testosterone you use. If you have a 5mg tablet, that means using one quarter tablet a day. Prolonged use has shown no adverse side effects in most subjects. (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10)

Nizoral shampoo and propecia or proscar will be good fighting hairloss when using testosterone.

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Pioneer

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posted April 06, 2001 09:02 PM

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I will being doing more research on this, because I will be adding finastride to my test cycle.....


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