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  Yes, I´m pretty shure I´m haveing gyno... Damn Deca!!!

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Cornellius

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posted April 06, 2001 01:28 PM

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At four months from my deca/winny cycle, gyno is starting. It all makes sence, bacause I have been with the flu for a long time and my wrist injury doesen´t fix, so I guess that my test level is low. Nolva won´t work against progesteronic induced gyno. I´ll tell the doc to remove this shit.

This is an advise to all the deca users... Even four month after have used it.


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BerkeleyJuice

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posted April 06, 2001 01:31 PM

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That sucks bro, get some RU-486 as fast as you can.


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Slopain

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posted April 06, 2001 01:33 PM

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4 months afterwards? take the nolva man and if you have winny use some also.

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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted April 06, 2001 01:42 PM

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Cornelius,listen to Slo.At this point it's highly doubtful that Progesterone levels are still elevated,as that occurs primarily when deca is ACTIVE.BUT-Since deca is so potent in driving down natural test levels and keeping them there,there is a surge in ESTROGEN that often takes place,once it has been eliminated from your system and androgen levels have evened out.Start taking some nolvadex ASAP...


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Stew Meat

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posted April 06, 2001 01:43 PM

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Like Slo said, Nolvadex is known to have some antiprogestrogenic effects.


-Stew


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Cornellius

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posted April 06, 2001 01:59 PM

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Well Huck, that makes sence. Will start with 20mg nolva and 50mg proviron.


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littlearnold1069

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posted April 06, 2001 04:59 PM

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probably couldn't hurt to throw in 25 mg ED or EOD of winny


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juicer20

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posted April 06, 2001 05:04 PM

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hey Cornellius,

sorry to hear about the gyno, how much decca were you taking??


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GenetiKing

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posted April 06, 2001 05:05 PM

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Just curious...
What did your Deca/Winny cycle look like?

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Cornellius

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posted April 07, 2001 12:43 AM

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The cycle was:

Week****deca****Winny*****Clomid
1*******200*****150*************
2*******250*****150*************
3*******300*****200*************
4*******300*****250*************
5*******300*****200*************
6*******250*****150*************
7*******200*****150*************
8*******150*****100*************
9*************************100mg/day
10************************50mg/day


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the truth

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posted April 07, 2001 01:31 AM

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Good advice from Huck and Slopain. It is doubtful that the gyno you have is progestenic.

I would start with 40 mg of Nolva for a few days and then take it down to 20.

This is one reason why, on the occasions I include nandrolone in my cycles, I cut it out at week 6, and end with test alone. I also take anti-e's for several weeks after my cycle. This time I'll be using Durabolin for the first 5 weeks. Its shorter ester should make it less unwieldy.

I am also a firm believer in bridging with primo.


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A man

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posted April 07, 2001 04:18 AM

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Hey Cornellis,
What was your results with that cycle. What did you gain or lose? Thanks bro, i hooe evrything works itself out for ya. Later!


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Cornellius

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posted April 07, 2001 11:05 PM

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It was a great "Bulk" cycle. Yes, Bulk with deca/winny. I had a high calorie diet (maybe to much junk). Gains were great in mass (26lbs), but I got some fat/water bloat. I keeped every lb of muscle after the cycle until I got injured.


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Fener

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posted April 07, 2001 11:44 PM

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It is not a progestogenic gyno as that it is caused by deca ITSELF attaching to the progesterone receptors. These is no conversion to progesterone. So if deca is out of your sistem and it is, it can't be form prog. It can be from estrogen due to low test levels. Start the nolva at 40mgs /day for 3 days then dop it to 20 for some more weeks.


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Zeke_B

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posted April 08, 2001 12:18 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by Fener:
It is not a progestogenic gyno as that it is caused by deca ITSELF attaching to the progesterone receptors. These is no conversion to progesterone.

No shit?? Is this true? I've been reading
for the past six months that Deca aromatizes
to progesterone. Thanks for info.


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2Thick

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posted April 08, 2001 02:33 AM

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Bro, use the Nolvadex and see what happens. Keep us updated.

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Latimer

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posted April 08, 2001 02:37 AM

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Anyone try to titfuck you yet?


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