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macavoy

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posted April 05, 2001 11:37 PM

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If you had, say, 20% bf and went on the gas would you have the same muscle results as one with 10% bf(assuming same genetics,training exp,etc))??

I guess Im assking if some of the juice is lost or absorbed by bf if you have xcess bodyfat??


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big boy82

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posted April 05, 2001 11:43 PM

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it all depends what kind of juice you do, it sounds like you don't want to work for it though. never think of sauce as a solution to all your problems cause that leads to addiction, think of it as help along the way! try some kind of fat burner with it. always remember the first time you hit the juice is always the best so spend your money wisely!


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hookuprx

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posted April 05, 2001 11:46 PM

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Most don't recommend juicing at all until your at least below 15% - but to each his own.

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smr91481

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posted April 05, 2001 11:48 PM

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i have over 20% bf and i'm taking a propionate only cycle. i can tell i'm getting more muscular but nobody else can cause the fat covers it up. so i'd recommend losing the fat first.


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Latimer

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posted April 06, 2001 12:11 AM

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I'd definately get the fat off first. What's the point of having big muscles if nobody can see them?


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Stew Meat

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posted April 06, 2001 12:12 AM

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Bro, here's what I'd suggest.
Your bf% will have nothing to do with the effectiveness of gear. I suggest that you do a cutting cycle to help you shread that excess fat.
You should use primo throught at a low dose so that you wont' loose any of your existing muscle while you "cut." The main cycle will consist of: low calories (low fat/low carbs) and heavy cardio. That's what will take you where you want to go.
Other aids in your cycle shoudl be Anavar, T3, Clenbuterol, ECA, yohimbe, tyramine, and possibly DNP (if the risks out weigh the benefits in YOUR opinion).

I will put you together a cycle if you drop me an email.


-Stew


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Big Johnson

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posted April 06, 2001 01:34 AM

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HEY BRO, I DON'T THINK THIN GUYS GAIN BETTER THAN FAT GUYS WHEN ON AS. LISTEN TO STEW - TAKE SOME GEAR WHILE YOU LOSE FAT TO PRESERVE MUSCLE YOU MIGHT HAVE OTHERWISE LOST IN THE CATABOLIC STATE. BESIDES WHAT STEW LISTED, METFORMIN IS ALSO A GOOD FAT LOSS DRUG.

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PimpnAintEasy

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posted April 06, 2001 02:08 AM

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Part of the wisdom behind not doing gear with BF over 18% has to do with health concerns. Chances are, with higher BF levels, you will also have higher Blood Pressure, cholesterol, etc. & generally in poorer condition, and be put at higher risk with the strain AS can put on your circulatory/endocrine system. However, there is a difference between 18% BF created by bulking and 18%+ BF% caused by a sedentary lifestyle and too many donuts.


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ROM

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posted April 06, 2001 02:18 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by PimpnAintEasy:
Part of the wisdom behind not doing gear with BF over 18% has to do with health concerns. Chances are, with higher BF levels, you will also have higher Blood Pressure, cholesterol, etc. & generally in poorer condition, and be put at higher risk with the strain AS can put on your circulatory/endocrine system. However, there is a difference between 18% BF created by bulking and 18%+ BF% caused by a sedentary lifestyle and too many donuts.

Makes pretty good sense to me. I heard the high blood pressure in male&or females doing AS is a serious possibilty...I don't have proof though...so maybe someone can factfully answer..........

cheers


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DCS

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posted April 06, 2001 06:21 AM

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Fat guys need to go extra heavy on the antiestrogens because they got a ton more aromatase enzymes in their abundance of fat cells than do regular guys. SO take my advice take all the standard recommended dosages for antiestorgens and double em or maybea even triple em.


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macavoy

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posted April 07, 2001 04:36 AM

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thx,bump it up one time.


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