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 Sust everyday. Tell me what is the point?
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Mutant   
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Please enlighten me as to why anyone would wish to do this? You are basically shooting 30mgs of prop every day and 220mgs of longer acting ester. Why dont you guys just buy prop alongside it and shoot it once a week and shoot the prop daily instead? Seems like a waste of pins, syringes and shooting 220mgs daily for the sake of 30mgs. Enlighten me if there is any logical explanation cause I very much look forward to it. To me it is a case of monkey see monkey do. Peace ------------------ E2's Steroid Pictures Pictures of many different drugs. AJC' Steroid Profiles Profiles of many different steroids 2Thick's Injection Procedures Site Complete with Pictures and Diagrams! Finaplix by Mr H A complete guide to Fina     | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1350 |
i dont know bro...every day is too much for me but people have got great gainz by doing it every day....but why not shoot up sus eod or once or twice a weeks and take prop eod or ed.....test susp is good too..... ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 498 |
Everyone thinks that Sust self tapers. Well they're wrong. The only way to get a true self taper is to take it ED. Besides, when you take it ED, your only shooting for 3-5 weeks. So that's a 6-8 week cycle in reality. When you guys do your "typical sust cycle" where you shoot twice a week for 8-10 weeks. Your cycle really last for 11-13 weeks. And in my opinion that is way too long to be on gear. Since Sust has 4 different esters, you're not shooting 1750mg a week. Its a totally different concept between shooting Sust ED and shooting Enanthate ED....think about it....and ask Dissto.... | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 30 |
The Man Child is absolutely correct . By doing it everyday , you get a high and steady flow of test per week because of the way the esters releases the test at different intervals. You don't want your test levels to be erratic from week to week. This puts you in a much less anabolic state than if you maintain and even,high amount each week . I've tried all methods from one shot a week ,to 2 , to three, then EOD. But I experimented with the ED method and man that shit rocks big time . Night and day difference I shit you not . Try it for 2-3 weeks and see for yourself. Later Munzer | ||
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Guru   
Posts: 6240 |
I think sus is a waste in the first place, and the "levels" things is BS unless your shooting it once a month or 3weeks like it was intended. If your shootin ED it is not level you are level but at a 45 degree slope upward lol. I dont see it either. People will always say sus is the best for that little bit of prop, well instead of that and shootin every 3 DAYS as it should be (not every day) then why not just get some enanthate and shoot it every 7-10 days or whatever you believe the half life to be. All long esters will be saelf tapering, enanthate is self tapering. Not via multiple esters but by one long acting ester. I have a feeling this will boil down to loyalty to their views but if someone can show me why shooting sus ED is beneficial (other than the fact that your shooting 1.75 grams of test which is a good thing) I have an open ear. ------------------ For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board) | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 33 |
sus everyday is funny as shit...sorry. damn i gotta go shoot my suspension into my neck, i hear its self tappering if i jab the pin in there, be right back | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1412 |
Some of you guys must be hard gainers if you have to shoot the shit ED.Im doing 1 shot 1 amp a week right now & making goods gains. ------------------ BROS BEFORE HO'S | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 62 |
who the hell wants to shoot that ass busting shit daily? once or twice a week i can see, but daily?!? | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 30 |
To all that doubt the effectiveness of ED shot of sus ,why don't you try it first before jumping to conclusions . If after you try it and you don't see the major difference it makes then you can all come back and flame my ass! I have no reason to lie about how effective my experiment was cause there's no reason to . I'm just telling it like it is from personal experience. I was skeptical at first like all of you that don't believe in this concept but I could not deny it after I tried it. Later Munzer | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 56 |
quote: I've talked to several people about doing this - front loading they call it. It sounds interesting as hell - but in your opinion would it be a good 'beginner' cycle. btw - Shouts to Phoenix - miss it/love it. Used to live on University and Ash in Tempe - One hell of a fun place to be. (lived right behind the circle-k in the palm readers apts) rxderrick | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 30 |
Hey Hookuprx , I wouldn't try it on first cyle but that's just my opinion. I believe you'll make great gains doing the normal 2-3 shots a week then when you have a couple of cycles under your belt, you can bump it up to the ED method as a great plateau buster. But i'm no expert so I would try to get some more feed back on this and see what others suggest. I only experimented with this method cause I tried all the other suggested dosaging methods and made good gains but the results were starting to slow down quite a bit . I wanted to see if this would shock my body into new accelerated growth and it definitely did . Not only did I see it in the mirror but all my buds and workout partners noticed and asked me what the fuck I was doing to get the gains. And you're right about AZ ! I give a big shout out to all the fine girls especially in Tempe Yummy LOL . Have a good one , Munzer | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 56 |
The ASU girls know how to do it.  I might try that - thanks for the info bro. rxderrick | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 793 |
I just started this method this week. I have seen the results with my partner and it worked extreamly well. I am going to give it a try to compare with other methods I have used. I will keep everyone interested updated. ------------------ | ||
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Freak
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I'm thinking of just frontloading for a week with Sust/Omna and then just running an 8 week cycle of a single-ester test or even Ara-test...just a thought...just me thinking out loud... ------------------ | ||
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Mutant
Posts: 3073 |
Do you ever hear of anyone shooting enanthate on a daily basis or primobolan depot on a daily basis? Eq, Deca, Cypionate or any other form of longer acting injectable steroid for that matter? No. Why? Because of the time it takes to release and remain active is much longer than that of slower acting steroids. Now then it comes to sust and you shoot it every day which equals 1750mgs/wk. This can easily be spread out in to 2 shots a week. Does prop need to be shot every day? No. Why? Its pretty obvious. So what can you possibly hope to achieve from shooting 250mgs of test every day? You say you get good results. No shit guys, you are shooting 1750mgs of test a week what did you think youd be getting. No one has still explained a logical reason for shooting this daily. Peace | ||
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Mutant
Posts: 3073 |
No one? | ||
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Guru
Posts: 6240 |
I dont think anyone will say the 250mg/day of test wont get you big thats 1,750mg's of test lol unless your comparing that against 1750mg/week of test (shot twice) I don't know how anyone could say its better - logic tells us it wont matter either way. I mean if I shot 300mg/EQ a day of course that would yeild more gains than 500/week b/c your shooting so much more steroids into your system. ------------------ For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board) | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 498 |
For the last time. Sust is not your typical test. You cannot compare Sustenon or Omnadren to Enanthate or Cyp. and definitely not to Deca or EQ or anything else... If you were to inject 250mg of Primoteston Everyday for 4 weeks. You would be injecting 1750mg of Test. But because its Sust, it has four DIFFERENT esters....I hope your not that ignorrant? On your typical cycles that you guys do with 500-1000mg of Sust. you don't really think there is 500-1000mg of Test being injected and processed in that ONE week do you?? Once the Test is removed from its ester, its free floating test. And that is why 1750mg of Enanthate or Cyp. is much more powerful than 1750mg of Sust/Omna injected in one weeks time..... | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 498 |
And one more point: Stop criticizing this new innovative way of cycling until you've given it a try for yourself... Remember a few months ago, when nobody wanted to even hear anything about short 2 week cycles? Well now they're scattered all over the board..Why?? Because they work. Just wait until more and more people try it and get awesome results, it will catch on like the plague, trust me... BTW: This is a cycle for intermediate to advanced steroid users and should NOT be used by beginners!! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 56 |
It has to do with the half-lifes of the different esters - A couple of them (the smaller mg esters in the sust blend) have such a short half life, that you are wasting them completely by injecting once a week. I'll look this one up and post what I can find. rxderrick | ||
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Mutant
Posts: 3073 |
quote: Im not even going to get in to this with you! Slopain at least you understand! | ||
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Guru
Posts: 6240 |
quote: Sound awfull defensive there Man Child. Umm I know your trying to flex your brain here, but where did I say 1750mg of test is 1750 RAW mg of test? yeah I DIDN'T. I made a brief mention of enanthate b/c I like it better than the blends. My Point was: Sustanon vs Sustanon: 1750mg per week NO MATTER HOW YOU DO IT ED EOD or Once a WEEK WILL YIELD THE SAME RESULTS ALL THINGS HELD CONSTANT. Understand this point? I was using the EQ to show that if your shooting somethign ED the only reason that would yield better gains is if the total WEEKLY MG'S ARE HIGHER. Otherwise no difference. So why shoot ED?
quote: New Innovative? lol sounds like marketing to me.. I hate to break it to you but the short cycle syndrome has been proven ineffecttive IN RELATION TO LONG CYCLES (see I have to do that so you dont call me ignorant and say "are you telling me people dont gain on short cycles" NO Im saying in relation to typical or even long cycles they pale in comparison) Go to Anabolic Fitness where the brains hang out and check on some posts there - even some of the most devoted Short Cyclers were proved wrong. And I disagree that this will catch on like the plague only b/c #1 Sustanons wont be used nearly as much in the future, now that people (including myself) have gotten over the "MAGICAL 4 ESTERS" hype. Its overpiced, and overrated. and #2 People don't want to do ED injections unless it is necessary. Now don't start making more personal attacks here, we are debating - calling people ignorant for something they did not say AND CLEARLY KNOW doesn't accomplish anything. ------------------ For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board) [This message has been edited by Slopain (edited April 05, 2001).] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 847 |
IG, your first post had a very good point. If I were going to use sust, I would use prop at least EOD along side it. There's a butt load of BS in this thread that I'm not even going to touch!
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 93 |
Excellent thread fella's. I would like to join the action, but you guys know way more than i. Im learning a bunch from all of you.Thats what its all about. Thanks | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1420 |
Amazing how much people talk and don't even have a clue what they're saying... Here's an amazing concept: SUSTANON IS SIMPLY TESTOSTERONE. Nothing more, nothing less. It just happens to be the most overrated, overpriced BRAND of testosterone on the market. Shooting everyday is a waste. Just because Sustanon has propionate in it doesn't mean that it must be shot EOD or ED to be effective. It's a myth. Once the propionate is through the body, the next ester in line takes its place to maintain a relatively consistent dose of testosterone. The original intent of the product is to create an long acting, sustaining (hence the name "Sustanon") form of testosterone that will require injections only once every three weeks or so. It was made for hormone replacement therapy. Front-loading is a concept up for debate, but that would consist of shooting 1500 to 2000 mg ON DAY ONE. The best way for this to work is to do a short acting test, like propionate, but ONLY propionate. If anyone has further questions on this or wants to debate more, I'll give more details. Otherwise, I'm not going to spend more time on this. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 498 |
Slopain, I didn't intend to insult you in anyway. However, unless you've tried the ED injections you'll never understand where I'm coming from. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 73 |
why cant we all just get along... Everyone has different Ideas | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 556 |
I would only do sust every day if it was 3 amps a day. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 56 |
Amen to that... rxderrick |
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posted April 04, 2001 06:17 PM
