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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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I was wondering on how long I should run my first cycle of deca @200mg and sust @250mg. Would it be better to run it a every 7 days so that would be 10 weeks or run it every 5 days which would be just over 6 weeks? let me know, thanks    | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1044 |
I would double the amount of gear you have and run 400mg deca and 500mg test for 8-10 weeks. 200mg of deca per week and 250mg of test per week wont give you very good results. If you can't afford to double the dose of both....do a test only cycle.  | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 498 |
Stiffler run it for 10 weeks the way you got it going. The test levels will finally build up after a few weeks so that should be fine. Remember everyones body responds differently to AS. What 200mg of Deca does for him might not do crap for you. DO NOT tell anyone they won't gain off of the little amount. Do you know his body?? Do you know how his body is going to react to it?? You ONLY increase the doseage IF your body is not responding well to it. | ||
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Novice 
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I would run the cycle out to 12 weeks by taking 100 Deca and 125 of the Sus the first two weeks.Most people don't feel much effects the first couple weeks on there first cycle.I think you will be very happy with the results.I'm one that believes in smaller amounts over longer time give you lasting results. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 121 |
So you think a once a week injection would be better than once every 6 days? I already have my gear and have done my first shot I was planing on doing it once every 6 days but just thought I'd ask. I have already gained 5 lbs but I think it might be from the added food intake. the reason I am doing a cycle with small doses is because I want to see how my body will respond. also i'm in college and got scammeded the first time I tryed to order so therefore my funds where shortend. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 842 |
That low dose of Deca/Sust will not benefit you very much more than your natural hormone levels. That being said, you would be better off not suppressing your HPTA and not doing a cycle. But, like wodaman said, if you can't afford it, do a test only cycle 500mg/wk. Don't forget the clomid and HCG. It is VERY easy to find. There is no need to drag out the cycle. Most people see the most muscle gain on weeks 4-7. People gain little muscle past week 8. Keep in mind, the sust will be in your system for at least 2 weeks after your last injection. -Stew | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 121 |
You know what I am sick of people tell me that my doses are to frickin low. A couple of my buddies did the same cycle and gained an average of 15-18 lbs. So I will keep my doses the way they are. thank you very much for that recycled info on doubling my doses. I am not trying to be R. Coleman with my first cycle | ||
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Novice
Posts: 7 |
I did my first cycle after my sophomore year in college. I did sus 250 and deca. It was like this for 8 weeks: sus deca 250 100 250 200 250 200 250 300 250 300 250 300 250 200 250 100 I gained over 15 lbs and looked great. My strength also went up tremendously. You do not have to do a lot on your the first couple cycles. If you start off using a lot, then you will just have to use more the next time to get good results. I took a shot of sus every sunday and the deca shot every wednesday. However you run this cycle, good luck. mjw | ||
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Novice
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You are wise to get a feel for the amounts that make you happy.The main thing to concern yourself with is eating enough food. I to have plenty of friends that did the same cycle your doing and gained 15 to 20 pounds. I would also think about tapering at the end of your cycle.I would space your shots out to 10 days the last couple weeks.It really helps me come down alot easier. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 842 |
You would be better off eating more food and NOT doing a cycle. If you are not going to do it right, there is not need to suffer the side effects when you are not goign to see the gains. Your buddy gained 15-18 lbs naturally. It is not hard to put on 15 lbs without gear if he worked out hard and ate right. And I'm sure since he was "juicen'" he probably worked out twice as hard. If you don't want to learn how to use gear, DO NOT POST ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. If you know so much about "what your body needs" you don't need to ask "How long to run?" The dossages that you have will not give you much in the way of gains outside of tricking your mind so that you will workout harder. However, the effectiveness of a real cycle will be diminshed. You will suffer NO MORE side effects from a REAL dossage than you will from what you had planned. If you don't want to know about gear and you get offended when guys, who know what they are talking about, teach you how to do it, you are posting on the wrong board.
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 121 |
Hey Stew, Regarding one of my freinds that did this same cycle. he gainded all that weight with in 5 and a half weeks, and had to cut his cycle short do to some unrelated problems. with in those 5 weeks he gained 15 lbs and his bench went up from 235 to 315. from what I have seen people cant make those gains that fast naturally but I am sure you have been around longer than me and maybe you have seen results like that. And second if this cycle works out for me (with no real sides) than I will for sure take your advise and double the doses for my next cycle. you cant tell me that 200mgs deca and 250mgs sust wont give my any muscle gains, I have seen it with my own two eyes. take it easy bro. Stiffler | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 842 |
You will see gains from that cycle. I was over exaggerating a bit  But I see a lot of people who are dissapointed from their cycles and there are a lot of bros who post on this board saying "What went wrong." Most of the time, they are expecting to see big gains off of low doses since it was their first cycle. Blame it on my background in psychology, but I feel that most of those who gain more on first cycles is due to the fact that they are taking something. There is no such thing as a "Virgin Receptor." Receptors do not downregulate from gear, but infact upregulate. Recptors will be more sensitive to gear on your next cycle. The effectiveness is due to developing a tolerance for the steroids. I was strongly encouraging you to use higher dosses because you will not see more side effects and you will definately see more gains. I don't want you to be unhappy with your cycle and at the same time increase your tolerance (and lowering the effectiveness) on your next cycle when you opted for a higher dose.
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 121 |
Hey Stew, That was kind of my question to begin with. I planed on taking it every 7 days for 10 weeks but since you say it is better to increase the doses would it be better to decrease the time in between shots for example every 5 days or so? as a result the cycle will only last about 7 weeks. therefore there should be more juice in my system, kind of like increasing the doses a little bit. what do you think bro? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 842 |
I would just increase the dossage. You don't need more injections... but either way would be the same thing. If you were using a faster acting ester, I would suggest that you increase the number injections. Deca is cool at once per week and enthanate is cool at 2x per week. This will keep levels even.
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posted April 04, 2001 11:57 AM