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Thudblast

Cool Novice

Posts: 27
From:North Fork, VA, USA
Registered: Feb 2001

posted March 31, 2001 12:15 PM

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Sup bros,

I have used insulin about 10 times now. I started at 5 i.u.'s, and my last one was about 12-13i.u.'s. I have had no problem with hypoglycemia. I take 10g's of creatine and about 5g's of glutamine post shot. I think my muscles are getting harder, but I'm just as fat, or fatter. I have been trying to wait at least 6-8 hours post insulin injection before I touch fat.

I have ordered my syringes. Man I have kept changing my mind about what I will do, help me out here. I want to spend about $300-$400. My current stats are 26yrs old, 245lbs, 24%bf. I have been looking in the mirror at my belly and titties. These must go bro! I am big, and have muscle underneath. Actually, my shoulders, arms, and back don't look bad, but I've even wondered if I should start with a cutting cycle, something like clen, T3, ECA, and low test with maybee some deca?

I like being big, but I don't need to put on 30lbs. I would actually be happy if I could maintain my current weight, and cut my fat down to about 14%. I have also read some on fina. What do you think of this stuff? I am also a powerlifter, and any strength gains would be welcomed.

What is your advice?

Thanks,

Thud


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MUSTANG_18

Olympian

Posts: 1840
From:canada
Registered: Sep 2000

posted March 31, 2001 12:55 PM

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WHEN TRYING TO CUT UP DIET IS KEY. IF YOU HAVE A CLEAN DIET THEN CUTING UP SHOULD NOT BE THAT HARD. I HAVE NEVER TRIED FINA BUT I HEAR IT GIVES KILLER STRENTH GAINS AND IS VERY GOOD TO CUT. I PLAN ON USING IT IN MY SUMMER CUT CYCLE AS WELL. AS FOR A CYCLE YOU COULD TRY THIS
WEEK****PROP****WINNY****FINA****
1******100/EOD*******************
2******100/EOD*******************
3******100/EOD**25/ED***75/EOD***
4******100/EOD**25/ED***75/EOD***
5******100/EOD**25/ED***75/EOD***
6******100/EOD**25/ED***75/EOD***
7******100/EOD**25/ED***75/EOD***
8******100/EOD**25/ED***75/EOD***
MAKE SURE YOU HAVE CLOMID FOR POST CYCLE.
ED = EVERY DAY
EOD = EVERY OTHER DAY
THE WINNY SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO PREVENT ANY CHANCE OF GETING PROGESTERONE INDUCED GYNO FROM THE FINA. ALTERNATE BETWEEN CLEN AND E/C/A EVERY 2 WEEKS SO YOUR BODY DOES NOT BUILD A TOLERANCE TO THEM, DO THAT THROUGH OUT THE CYCLE. IF YOU WANT YOU COULD ADD SOME CYTOMEL(T3) IN THERE FOR THE LAST 4 WEEKS LIKE THIS(USING 25MCG TABS)
1112223334444333332222211111. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE MILK THISTLE OR LIV 52 TO HELP PROTECT THE LIVER AND DRINK PLENTY OF WATER AND CRANBERRY JUICE FOR THE KIDNEYS. YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIT THIS CYCLE IN TO THE BUGET YOU HAVE. HOPE THIS HELPS, GOOD LUCK

M18

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primetime

Amateur Bodybuilder

Posts: 67
From:NY
Registered: Mar 2001

posted March 31, 2001 02:29 PM

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If your trying to get cut you are crazy doing insulin (unless you are a diabetic, of course). Insulin is a VERY anabolic substance, but it also makes people put on a ton of fat at the same time.


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Thudblast

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Posts: 27
From:North Fork, VA, USA
Registered: Feb 2001

posted April 01, 2001 03:20 PM

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Thanks for the response M18. Diet is one of my issues I need to work on. I love food, more specifically, I love pizza, tacos, and ice cream. I usually eat clean throughout the day, and then have one meal that I don't watch what I eat at all. This obviously doesn't work well. Also, one thing that helps me is if I have all my meals prepared for the day.


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