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Tuna Guy

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posted March 31, 2001 08:13 AM

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To those that have tried ephedrine on its own how does it compare to the eca stack.
Ive used them both and to be honest i havent noticed much of a difference with resoct to the shakes dry mouth etc.


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Mask

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posted March 31, 2001 08:55 AM

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From what I've read on Meso-rx's article, ephedrine on its own is almost insignificant in fat loss. Go to Walmart and grab a generic label caffeine pills. They are $4 for 40 tablets (200mg each). And then grab a generic baby aspirin with it.


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GinNJuice

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posted March 31, 2001 10:15 AM

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I usually take ephedrine on it's own... and I get caffeine during the day with all the coffee I drink


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bigtbone

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posted March 31, 2001 12:36 PM

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I take ephedrine seperately and add aspirin and caffine to it and make my own ECA stack. Most of the ECA stacks sold in nutrition stores use ephedra which is the herbal form of ephedrine and I don't think it works as well. Buy straight, pure ephedrine and add the rest yourself.


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ROIDJUNKIE

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posted March 31, 2001 01:06 PM

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Go to K-mart they have JET ALERT 200mg 90tabs for 2.99 or the 100mg ones 120tabs for the same price I always buy one of each I like the way 300 mg of caffine feels better with my homemade ECA stack.


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Cuts

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posted March 31, 2001 01:37 PM

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They both suck. Clen sucks. T4 sucks. God I want to try DNP!!!

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##spiderbaby##

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posted March 31, 2001 02:06 PM

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I can only find ephedra, who the hell sells ephadrine?


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bigrand

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posted March 31, 2001 02:28 PM

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Im also curious as to who sells Ephedrine and the brand names its under


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Loophole Genetics

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posted March 31, 2001 02:54 PM

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There is a reason that people use ephedrine, caffeine and aspirin together. You see, when you combine the three in the amounts that you do, normally 20mg ephedrine, 200mg caffeine and 200mg aspirin, a synergestic effect takes place. They actually work together, and sort of increase the potency of each, so to say. For example, without adding the aspirin and caffeine, you would need to take somewhere in the neighborhood of 50-75 mg of ehpedrine to get the same effects when using the three together. It is very important to combine the three.


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JOCKO7

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posted March 31, 2001 03:16 PM

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After finding "your ideal" ECA Stack and mixture, try taking each dose throughout the day with pure Grapefruit Juice. (not GRAPE juice but GRAPEFRUIT juice)
The grapefruit contains Naranginen (spellcheck on that) which aids in extending the half-life of the ECA stack.
In other words, the effectiveness is increased.
NOTE: Go with the ECA stack for the first two weeks, then when your body starts to resist the effects, add the grapefruit juice.


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Jback

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posted March 31, 2001 03:42 PM

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have never heard of the grapefruit juice-where did you get that info from?

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Bubba

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posted March 31, 2001 03:47 PM

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I used some Grapefruit stuff years ago to drop weight. It worked. I think that might help out. Interesting idea.


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JOCKO7

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posted March 31, 2001 04:01 PM

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jback:
[B]have never heard of the grapefruit juice-where did you get that info from?

To be honest, I first read about it in "The Supplement Review" (simple regular grapefruit juice) If you read any pharmaceutical literature, there are always contraindications, warnings, notices, etc... that talk about Grapefruits effects on various compounds because of the "naranginen"
There are magazine artiles mentioning it every once in awhile.
This naturally occurring substance does have influences on the half-life of not only ephedrine, but hormones as well. ( If I remember correctly, it was estrogen or chemical compounds similar to estrogen --SOMETHING THAT MAY BE OF "INDIRECT INTEREST" TO BODYBUILDERS.
Please note - I am a novice seeking to always improve my knowledge on performance enhancement. Never used, but trying to learn as much as I can.
I think I'll post a new topic on the subject since we're starting to stray a little.


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##spiderbaby##

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posted March 31, 2001 04:30 PM

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OK, so were do u guys get your ephadrine? not ephedra. Ive looked everywhere i can think of and only find ephedra. I assumed they were the same thing but I guess they are not.


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JOCKO7

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posted March 31, 2001 05:28 PM

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Maybe its the state you live in. Try checking out some truck stops or convenient stores. I've always found that they sell the ephedrine behind the counter. -Just a thought. I've never had a problem.


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bigtbone

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posted March 31, 2001 06:08 PM

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I buy mine at gas stations and truckstops. They are behind the counter but usually in view. I guess people used to steal them too much. Anyways they are called Two-Way Max Brand. They contain 25 mg Ephedrine Hydrochloride and 200 mg Guaifenesine (a bronchodilator) and are distributed byCompare Generiks Inc.

If you can't find them at a gas station, maybe you could search the net to see if the company who distributes them has a web site you could order from.

Oh, there is also a brand called Mini-Thins.


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Iron Ghost

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posted March 31, 2001 06:58 PM

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Ephedrine is piss easy to find here in the UK.I buy a 1000 tabs a time.
Having tried a very,very strong version of eca in the past (2/3 caps),i find i have to take 10 to 12 ephedrine tabs to get the same "buzz".
Out of the two,i will probably stick to an eca in future.I just can't be arsed to buy the caffeine tabs seperately and take them with the pure ephedrine.


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QuickGrow

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posted March 31, 2001 07:37 PM

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Look for the little brown boxes of Primatene tablets found in the cold and sinus section of just about any drug store. Each tablet has 12.5 mg of ephedrine them.


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jdismukes

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posted March 31, 2001 08:10 PM

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anybody that needs pure ephidrine, they sell it at the gas stations around my house, they call them mini-thins, its 20 ephidrine and then it has some other ingredient to help breathing, its sold as asthma med.


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gtaman

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posted April 01, 2001 05:19 AM

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Two places that sell ephedrine online:
http://www.thermalplus.com
http://www.heavyweights.net

By the way, the E & C definitely have a synergistic effect but from what I've read and from experience, dropping the aspirin has no impact. So get rid of the aspirin and save your stomach lining.


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kelly_smunt

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posted April 01, 2001 06:32 AM

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You can also get it at www.betterbodz.com.


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komododragon

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posted April 01, 2001 10:12 AM

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http://dnepharm.com/cgi-bin/webcart/webcart.cgi?CONFIG=mountain &YES&CHANGE=YES&NEXTPAGE=ephedrine.html&CODE=371

D&E pharmaceuticals sells pure ephedrine, everything else is ma huang based.

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