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WHITE_TRASH

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posted March 31, 2001 05:04 AM

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I see all these big guys in the gym training with weights (not cardio) for 2-3 hours. I read in magazines when they do stories on the top ifbb pros and they list out their schedule of only weight training and they stay in for at least 2 hours. I see some guys doing way too many sets but the way they look I think I will try it. Some of these people including girls look at me like im not serious and give me a look like "if your not serius then get out because they want to use the equipment". I use perfect form and try not to overtrain and I see some people in the gym for hours. Am I not in long enough. How long are you in the gym.


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GetPandP

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posted March 31, 2001 05:11 AM

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You would get along with MeanOne great. He's one of those perfect form, 35 minute workout guys, and I guess it works for him. Me, I spend about 2 1/2 hours a day in the gym, 3 days a week. Chest and Arms day one, Legs day 3, back and shoulders day 5. 9-12 sets per bodypart. I pick three exercises, one for strength and mass, one for shape, and one for a good stretch and contraction. I take my lead from Shawn Ray, I've been training like this since 93 when I saw his video "To the extreme." It's worked very well. I rarely go to faliure, I use resistance and volume of work to build up size.


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Jonrocks

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posted March 31, 2001 07:03 AM

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My leg workouts are just over an hour, the rest of my workouts are just under an hour sometimes two a day. Shorter rest periods, higher intensity.

Really what it comes down to is what works for you. Some people can do a longer duration of training, some people respond better to shorter, intense workouts.

For me, I like to workout twice a day if time allows it. Two, 45 min sessions 5-6 hours apart, same body part.

If you are growing from shorter intense workouts, then who cares if someone workouts for 3 hours. I personally belive in the shorter intense workouts.


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Mask

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posted March 31, 2001 09:02 AM

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If you go a bit more than an hour worth of intense weight resistance training, it becomes catabolic and it's not going to be beneficial to you. This is unless you are a big time roid user.

I'm wondering how anyone, without f**king around, need more than an hour? If you go 4 sets of 6-8 reps with 2 minutes in between sets doing 4 subsets, I just don't see how you can go over an hour.
I see people in the gym all the time who would do 1 set and then take a 15 minute rest talking to his buddies.
My philosophy is, get in, do my thing, and get the hell out.


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madbomber31

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posted March 31, 2001 09:03 AM

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most people would tell you anything over an hour is over kill.

only time i stay an hour is including cardio, so that ups me to an hour and a half...


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Will B.Huge

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posted March 31, 2001 09:16 AM

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Wo care what other people think, you do whatever works for you not the other people.
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RT

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posted March 31, 2001 09:30 AM

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The only time I am in the gym for over an hour is if I get talking too much, which I try not to do. Assuming your doing one body part a day there is no reason to be in there for hours at a time. Eat, Train, REST and Grow....Peace.

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1Mistake

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posted March 31, 2001 09:33 AM

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If you are doing no cardio..an hr is the MAX. you want to be in there!! Keep headphones on and ignore people

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joeljuice

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posted March 31, 2001 09:36 AM

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I train less than hour too. Working id fine, but i have lot oyhers things to do and ican spend 2-3 hours in the gym. Shorter trains are best for me.

I train Finnish bodybuilding program called Mega Duty it is pretty much like Heavy Duty. My trainig routine looks like this

tuesday: chest, shoulders and triceps

benchpress
incline bench press
shoulder press
tricep extension
overhead tricep press

thursday: back, biceps, abs

deadlift, bend over row, latt pull down barbell curl, preacher curl and abs crunch

saturday: lages and abs

sguat, leg extension, leg curl, calf raise and abs crunch

I only do 2 hard sets always to the failure plus i do special technigues like forced reps and partials.

This system with warming up can be done less than hour and it is just great.

By the way Dorian Yates used Heavy Duty method and he was great, Mike Menzer was pretty good too.

Less train more intensity

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Beezers

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posted March 31, 2001 10:21 AM

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I'll restate what has been stated already. If you're workouts last over and hour you are either overtraining or have a severe lack of intensity. I have never read about pros or even read advice for that matter that says a pro or wanna be pro should be in the gym at least two hours. My guess is that is when they are preparing for a contest and doing cardio as well. After a certain amount of work and time you will become very catabolic from a hormone response. That leads to the severe breakdown of muscle tissue thus inducing overtraining.


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joeljuice

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posted March 31, 2001 10:33 AM

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Dorian yates have said that you can wether train hard or long, but you cant train hard and long.

That is the thing

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Laserdude

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posted March 31, 2001 10:35 AM

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I started doing a hour 3 to 4 times a week.

The I split up the routine and did upper body
2 to 2.5 hours, then the lower body (abs, legs ect...) on the next day 2 to 2.5 hours. Four day a week. Resting, Monday - Tuesday skip Wednesday.
Thursday - Friday repeat. Week end is mine.

Made a real difference in appearance and strenght. I juice so it worked for me. Even when off cycle.

Gor for it. You will feel the difference.

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solidspine

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posted March 31, 2001 12:17 PM

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I have historically trained for two hours, now have it down to 1.5 hours and will be shooting for 1 hour. For me it simply is a lack of focus, last night I stayed focused and worked intensly for an hour and 15 minutes. Better result. Of course 750mg of Test ethantate this week helps that intenstity.


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barbells79

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posted March 31, 2001 12:25 PM

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i go an hour 5 days a week
chest
back-abs
bis-tris
shoulders
legs-abs
remember yuo dont grow while you are lifting, you grow at rest. be intense, get in and get out. and GROW.

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bigtbone

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posted March 31, 2001 12:28 PM

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Screw what people in the gym think! Everyone there thinks they know the correct way to train and they might-for themselves. Do what works for you and let your results speak for themselves.

I personally workout for about an hour, sometimes 1.5 hours if I'm doing higher volume and on a cycle. If I'm off AS, then never longer than a hour for the same reasons stated by the other fellas.


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horse

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posted March 31, 2001 12:49 PM

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If you use perfect form,and I mean perfect form, and put your mind and soul into each rep then you will not do more than 2 exersises of 4 sets.
30 to 40min is plenty.

These guys that lift huge amounts of weight probably arent doing the exersise the way its ment to be done.

Have a look at people when they train and you will see that most of them are doing it completely wrong.(I should know, I study exersise science)

And im not flaming bros that lift heavy just the ones that lift too heavy and compromise form.


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LivinLarger

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posted March 31, 2001 01:27 PM

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I look at these marathon workout people in my gym and they NEVER go to failure or approach the intensity I put into my workouts.
I feel that if you are not totally beat after an hour you are not putting enough intensity into your training.
These are typically the people who look the same year after year.
I keep a log and always strive to beat my last performance. 3 days a week for an hour works best for me. A little more volume when I am on.

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WHITE_TRASH

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posted March 31, 2001 01:30 PM

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I go 5 days a week

Monday Chest and triceps, calves

Tuesday, Back, abs

Wednesday biceps and forearms

Thursday, off

Friday, legs, calves

Sauturday, shoulders, abs

Sunday, off

Would an hour be acceptable for this type ofschedule


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stretch

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posted March 31, 2001 01:39 PM

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All of my workouts are only 45 minutes to an hour. It seems to work fine for me. There's one guy in my gym that works his ass off and wonders why he can't gain any weight. I tried to explain to him that he's probably overtraining, but he doesn't understand how that could be possible.


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Mass Monster

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posted March 31, 2001 01:40 PM

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When I first started working out I used perfect form and lifted slow worked out for 5 dys a week 1 hour workouts. Now that I have been lifting for quite some time I have have modified my workout. To gro I work best at 1.5-2.0 hours in the gym except for legs about 1 hour. I lift with good form but faster and heavy weigths. I see all these people with set training splits but thats not me I lift what feels good and I take off a day or two when I feel my body needs it!

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GetPandP

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posted March 31, 2001 04:02 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by LivinLarger:
I look at these marathon workout people in my gym and they NEVER go to failure or approach the intensity I put into my workouts.
I feel that if you are not totally beat after an hour you are not putting enough intensity into your training.
These are typically the people who look the same year after year.
I keep a log and always strive to beat my last performance. 3 days a week for an hour works best for me. A little more volume when I am on.




Well I guess I'm lazy and everything, but many studies have proven in all age groups that training to faliure is NOT needed to start hypertrophy. If you want to train to faliure, I hope you enjoy your pec tear or whatever other injury YOU WILL have. I tell MeanOne this all the time.

As far as pro's not working out long, pick up some of their training video's many of them train for up to 3 hours, including the biggest in the sport like Kovacs and Ruhl. Hell Ruhl does 20 sets of just machine seated presses for shoulders and then 3 other exercises!

Anyway, it all comes down to what works for you, but please don't generalize that if you train long it won't work, because it's been proven over time, and it does work for SOME people, just like short training works for SOME people.
I get at least 20 lbs larger each year...and mind you, I'm 6'3 and 283lbs now, so I have a lot more frame to fill out. I guess I'm not a walking example of volumes effectiveness in some people. LOL

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##spiderbaby##

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posted March 31, 2001 04:27 PM

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Sounds like I have been over training! I use PERFECT form and cannot see how someone can only spend 1 hour in the gym. I am in 1.5-2.25 weight only. It just seems to take that long for me. I have noticed though that my sets take 3 times as long as most everyone else around me. I satrt my set and the guy next to me is done with all his sets when Im just starting second. Example: curls=10 reps per set, 3 sets. Then concentration curls, then reverse curls. that alone takes me a long while. I try to train two muscle groups a workout. Chest-triceps/ shoulders-bicepts/
Legs-forearms/ back-neck. abs almost everytime. But I'm there never less than 1.5 ever. even when i say I am just gonna do a quick day... doesnt happen. I usually try to hit the muscles with at least 3-4 different exercices. maybe its too much.


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JuanDeLaCruz

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posted March 31, 2001 04:33 PM

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People don't think I'm serious about bodybuilding because I only workout 3 days a week for about an hour and 15 minutes. When I tell them that I'm into bodybuilding they always say "Oh, so you must workout everyday for hours right?" Then I'm like "No, that's not necessary", but they cant understand. They think that you're building muscle every time you perform a rep, like it's magic or something. They don't know that growing occurs during rest with the consumption of a large amount of protien.

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monster2oo1

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posted March 31, 2001 04:37 PM

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If your happy with your results who really cares what other people say. You going to the gym for yourself and no one else, right??


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BIGGYSMALLZ

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posted March 31, 2001 05:00 PM

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1 1/2 hours is lots!!That's including 1/2 hour for cardio!!Good results

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bigpun

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posted March 31, 2001 06:16 PM

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One intense hour of lifting is more than enough. I have read numerous articles that cite studies that show that androgen levels drop drastically after an hour, so exceeding 60 or so minutes becomes counterproductive.

The pros may work out for 3 hours or so but the pros also have from 1 to 3 grams of test in their bloodstream, so a drop in their anabolic hormone levels is not a concern. If you're on, more than an hour may be okay, but I'd recommend no more than 70 minutes if you're off.


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Snoop

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posted March 31, 2001 06:46 PM

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I probably stay in the gym for about an hour and a half but i end up talkin to my boys alot.

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