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Author | Topic: which A.S. would you NEVER use again? | ||
Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2167 |
and why? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 747 |
Androstendeone ![]() -Stew ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 54 |
I guess this is a given. Andriol. It didn't do shit!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 565 |
LOEFFLER SUST - BUNK ASS OR DECCA - NOT EVEN WORTH THE MONEY ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 58 |
fake heptylate lol ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 21 |
I don't like decca either. We all are so concerened about anti-estrogens and would never think of starting a cycle without the proper accessory meds, yet many people used decca and hope that they don't get progesterone side affects, just my .02. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 382 |
d-bol.........first two weeks are ok then, i just start feeling this wierd toxic feeling. not to mention the way you piss everything out when you come off. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2206 |
loeffler sos is fake.. like em all...because they are real..if you use one by itself dont expect much ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 789 |
Deca and fina, because of progesterone gyno.....unless I can get my hands on some RU-486 ![]() ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 616 |
NILE SUSTANON... THE SHIT BLOATED ME BIG TIME.. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 277 |
I will not use any nandrolone (deca) derivatives again. Progesterone sides are harder to predict and to counter. I also feel it is very overrated in terms of it's effectiveness. Also, it can produce persistant acne in some individuals that are not usually prone. ------------------ quote: ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Olympian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1511 |
quote:Fake? No. Unregistered? YES! ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 739 |
Tornel Equi-Gan......I was stupid and went the cheap route. It was dirty and I got an infection after 4 injections. I have scar tissue lumps in my ass now, been 2 years. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 640 |
decca-still have acne on the back of my arms from it-never broke out like that before on anything. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 259 |
Loeffler Sustenon is fake? I haven't heard that. Tell me that it is not fake somebody. ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Novice ![]() Posts: 10 |
test suspension. the shit just flat out hurts!!! for days at that!!! sometimes i like to lift my arms above my head. (i like the delts.) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1033 |
fina pellets with dmso, to much trouble. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 734 |
andriol, first roid used while I was uneducated on the subject. Doesn't do jack. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1144 |
metheltest..more toxic than anadrol with poor gains. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 270 |
Deca for me too...Just not worth worring about progesterone gyno, and if I have to get winny too to battle progesterone, it's not worth it...I'll stick to EQ. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1115 |
I have liked them all, never have had a bad experience! Mass Monster ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1137 |
3 a-bombs per day for first cycle, OUCH! it hurt ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 70 |
dbol tooooo many side effects
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Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 17 |
for all those who dont like deca how much did you use that you got gyno? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1237 |
Halo, it fucks my head up. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 39 |
Deca. To hell with it. What's the point? It didn't give me gyno, but it fucks up the test axis faster than any other drug (debatable, sure, but that's what I believe) and the gains aren't as impressive as many others. Plus, who wants Deca Dick? I didin't get it bad, but it was fairly noticable. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 70 |
hands down EQ. Used it for three weeks felt nothing, except it killed my appetite. Could not see why anyone would use that crap. The guys who I see post their pics that say they use EQ usally look like nothing. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1115 |
I love AS, hate clomid!!! Mass Monster ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Moderator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1282 |
I see alot of people dissing deca cuz of the progesterone conversion. Have you ever heard of taking winstrol with it to combat it? It works! I take winny with my anadrol cycles for the same reason. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1360 |
D-bol. Too much hairloss, and makes my piss smell real weird. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 52 |
For you Deca haters, were u sure that your Deca was real and not counterfited with test as it usually is? I like Deca and haven't had a bad experience with it yet (not higher than 400mg/wk). I personally hate Finabolan for the psychological effect it has on me. I go friggin too emotional and mental on it. Not worth the gains. But I did have good gains from it when stacked with Winstrol and Sostenon. Peace ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 852 |
2Thicks going to be pissed when he reads all these anti-deca posts. ![]() ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 538 |
I like some deca BUT NOT TORNELL DECA that garbage thinned my hair and made me sweat like a dozen hogs every night and most days .And yes it was the Tornell that thinned my hair and someone else that was on Tornell Deca only lost a ton of hair so don't let anyone tell you that you won't lose hair on Deca atleast Tornell Deca because we did . I wouldn't give it to my neighbors dog. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 278 |
SUST, because i get bloated with it worse then any other test. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 25 |
Russian D-bol, which some say is actually methyltest. Shit made my kidneys hurt. The only time I have ever felt like that from AS. ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 312 |
Deca or Ref B. Neither did too much for me, and even with continual clomid and test throughout, I still got deca dick. Gonna stick with what works...TEST TEST TEST TEST!! ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 277 |
All the Deca used was real for sure, came straight from the pharm(not Mexican)...really not impressed with it whatsoever. I have given it several chances with dissapointing results. The worst side of all is the re-occuring acne. It sets in and can take months to recover. ------------------ quote: ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Moderator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2114 |
I saw some good points here like the Cubans response to progesterone induced gyno and winny, and shitty brand deca. I also seen some shit not too common like gyno from trenbolone. I have not used deca for muscle building purposes, but used a mere 200mg a week for rehab on my shoulder and it was great. Oh and as much respect as I have for Animal B I have to disagree that using one drug alone will not leave you expecting much. Im convinced at this point that test cycles alone (if that is what you wish) is very capable of adding on quite a few lbs. of mass. My choice would be Pgf2a. For the hell I went through at 1cc 1/2 I could have made those gains in about 3 more months of training withoug all the damn pain. Peace, ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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