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Jae

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posted March 30, 2001 01:57 PM

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and why?


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Stew Meat

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posted March 30, 2001 01:59 PM

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Androstendeone

-Stew


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drdeca2001

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posted March 30, 2001 02:03 PM

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I guess this is a given. Andriol. It didn't do shit!!!


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Big Johnson

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posted March 30, 2001 02:10 PM

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LOEFFLER SUST - BUNK ASS

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DECCA - NOT EVEN WORTH THE MONEY

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Manilla Gorilla

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posted March 30, 2001 02:12 PM

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fake heptylate lol

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Mike80

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posted March 30, 2001 02:18 PM

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I don't like decca either. We all are so concerened about anti-estrogens and would never think of starting a cycle without the proper accessory meds, yet many people used decca and hope that they don't get progesterone side affects, just my .02.


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tri~zilla

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posted March 30, 2001 02:18 PM

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d-bol.........first two weeks are ok then,
i just start feeling this wierd toxic feeling. not to mention the way you piss everything out when you come off.


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animal B

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posted March 30, 2001 02:22 PM

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loeffler sos is fake..
like em all...because they are real..if you use one by itself dont expect much


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'ORCHITIS'

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posted March 30, 2001 02:26 PM

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Deca and fina, because of progesterone gyno.....unless I can get my hands on some RU-486

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toni

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posted March 30, 2001 02:33 PM

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NILE SUSTANON... THE SHIT BLOATED ME BIG TIME..

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Phreaky

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posted March 30, 2001 04:17 PM

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I will not use any nandrolone (deca) derivatives again. Progesterone sides are harder to predict and to counter. I also feel it is very overrated in terms of it's effectiveness. Also, it can produce persistant acne in some individuals that are not usually prone.

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Your_Moms_Kneepads

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posted March 30, 2001 04:23 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by animal B:
loeffler sos is fake..
like em all...because they are real..if you use one by itself dont expect much

Fake? No. Unregistered? YES!

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the mechanic

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posted March 30, 2001 04:27 PM

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Tornel Equi-Gan......I was stupid and went the cheap route. It was dirty and I got an infection after 4 injections. I have scar tissue lumps in my ass now, been 2 years.

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Jback

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posted March 30, 2001 04:53 PM

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decca-still have acne on the back of my arms from it-never broke out like that before on anything.

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curling

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posted March 30, 2001 05:04 PM

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Loeffler Sustenon is fake? I haven't heard that. Tell me that it is not fake somebody.


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erb1976

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posted March 30, 2001 05:23 PM

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test suspension. the shit just flat out hurts!!! for days at that!!! sometimes i like to lift my arms above my head. (i like the delts.)


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jdismukes

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posted March 30, 2001 05:32 PM

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fina pellets with dmso, to much trouble.


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airtyme

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posted March 30, 2001 05:59 PM

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andriol, first roid used while I was uneducated on the subject. Doesn't do jack.


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Krusher

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posted March 30, 2001 06:02 PM

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metheltest..more toxic than anadrol with poor gains.


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Hoss

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posted March 30, 2001 06:14 PM

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Deca for me too...Just not worth worring about progesterone gyno, and if I have to get winny too to battle progesterone, it's not worth it...I'll stick to EQ.

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Mass Monster

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posted March 30, 2001 06:30 PM

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I have liked them all, never have had a bad experience!

Mass Monster


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mike001

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posted March 30, 2001 06:38 PM

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3 a-bombs per day for first cycle, OUCH! it hurt

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yenigma

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posted March 30, 2001 08:14 PM

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dbol tooooo many side effects


t3 and dmso, pain in the ass

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Faceless Man

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posted March 30, 2001 09:37 PM

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for all those who dont like deca how much did you use that you got gyno?


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jersey boy

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posted March 30, 2001 09:51 PM

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Halo, it fucks my head up.

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Jafar

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posted March 30, 2001 10:26 PM

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Deca. To hell with it. What's the point? It didn't give me gyno, but it fucks up the test axis faster than any other drug (debatable, sure, but that's what I believe) and the gains aren't as impressive as many others. Plus, who wants Deca Dick? I didin't get it bad, but it was fairly noticable.


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Onadrol

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posted March 30, 2001 10:30 PM

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hands down EQ. Used it for three weeks felt nothing, except it killed my appetite. Could not see why anyone would use that crap. The guys who I see post their pics that say they use EQ usally look like nothing.



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Mass Monster

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posted March 30, 2001 10:35 PM

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I love AS, hate clomid!!!

Mass Monster


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el cubano

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posted March 30, 2001 10:38 PM

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I see alot of people dissing deca cuz of the progesterone conversion. Have you ever heard of taking winstrol with it to combat it? It works! I take winny with my anadrol cycles for the same reason.

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Hugh Gellatts

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posted March 30, 2001 11:07 PM

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D-bol. Too much hairloss, and makes my piss smell real weird.


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4mike

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posted March 30, 2001 11:11 PM

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For you Deca haters, were u sure that your Deca was real and not counterfited with test as it usually is? I like Deca and haven't had a bad experience with it yet (not higher than 400mg/wk). I personally hate Finabolan for the psychological effect it has on me. I go friggin too emotional and mental on it. Not worth the gains. But I did have good gains from it when stacked with Winstrol and Sostenon. Peace


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slabcat

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posted March 30, 2001 11:27 PM

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2Thicks going to be pissed when he reads all these anti-deca posts. I will use it again but I fucking hate clomid with a passion. Shit turns me into a depressed, wimpering bitch while on it.

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pittbull2

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posted March 30, 2001 11:35 PM

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I like some deca BUT NOT TORNELL DECA that garbage thinned my hair and made me sweat like a dozen hogs every night and most days .And yes it was the Tornell that thinned my hair and someone else that was on Tornell Deca only lost a ton of hair so don't let anyone tell you that you won't lose hair on Deca atleast Tornell Deca because we did . I wouldn't give it to my neighbors dog.


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Just_Grow

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posted March 31, 2001 12:04 AM

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SUST, because i get bloated with it worse then any other test.


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Colorado_Juice

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posted March 31, 2001 01:41 AM

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Russian D-bol, which some say is actually methyltest. Shit made my kidneys hurt. The only time I have ever felt like that from AS.


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LittleSavage34

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posted March 31, 2001 01:43 AM

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Deca or Ref B. Neither did too much for me, and even with continual clomid and test throughout, I still got deca dick. Gonna stick with what works...TEST TEST TEST TEST!!

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Phreaky

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posted March 31, 2001 01:45 AM

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All the Deca used was real for sure, came straight from the pharm(not Mexican)...really not impressed with it whatsoever. I have given it several chances with dissapointing results. The worst side of all is the re-occuring acne. It sets in and can take months to recover.

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WCP

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posted March 31, 2001 02:38 AM

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I saw some good points here like the Cubans response to progesterone induced gyno and winny, and shitty brand deca.

I also seen some shit not too common like gyno from trenbolone.

I have not used deca for muscle building purposes, but used a mere 200mg a week for rehab on my shoulder and it was great.

Oh and as much respect as I have for Animal B I have to disagree that using one drug alone will not leave you expecting much. Im convinced at this point that test cycles alone (if that is what you wish) is very capable of adding on quite a few lbs. of mass.

My choice would be Pgf2a. For the hell I went through at 1cc 1/2 I could have made those gains in about 3 more months of training withoug all the damn pain.

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