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Novice 
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I am planning on smoking alot a pot for my mass building cycle I am starting next week. It call for 4000 calories/day so I will need the extra effort. Is it ok to smoke and juice?     | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 291 |
Pot will most likely hinder your gains. You should find a better way to get your calories in. Let's be honest though, you aren't really smokin' weed just so you will eat more...that's a rationalization. | ||
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Novice
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pot, over time is proven to raise estrogen levels in the body. it's probably alright assuming you haven't been smoking for the past few years or more. | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 37 |
quote: if it's been proven then pls show us the proof, otherwise its just BS. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 493 |
Phenyl, what a handle, I love it! I don't have a problem with it, but that is just my opinion and experence. If you have used sus or any test product you should know if your gonna get any gyno. If you do, this could be a additional causal factor. You will have to decide if this fits your profile Good luck, and it does help the appetite. However there are other drugs, but must be prescribed and if you don't fit the right critria, you won't get it. | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 2255 |
Fact: I smoke A LOT of dope....... Do I have bitch tits? Do I gain well? Do I train HIGH?
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 102 |
try some B12 if you wanna increase your appetite... pot isn't the answer... my friend lost a lot of his gains after a cycle when he started back on the herb.... I am not a fan of narcotics.... but I am "pro-gear"... as most of the bros in here.... anyways... that's just my opinion, and ya'll know what opinions are like.... "they are all like assholes... everyone has one, and they all friggin stink!!!" anyways...good luck bud..... RJ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 45 |
ROLL IT UP LIGHT IT UP SMOKE IT UP! It's 420 time to smoke! Come down to SA and toke it up. But by all means train hard and put the munchies to good use and intake some good clean food, not Wendy's late night. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 45 |
Does B12 really increase the appetite cause my appetite is shit I'm not hungry for nothing but force down some protein shakes that amount in 3,000calories a day and whatever other food I eat. But not as hungry as I use to be and barely eat. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 798 |
I'm with Green. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 72 |
quote: Let's be honest though, you Gimme a break. | ||
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Novice
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Talk about some bad advice, Bodhi, you just fed him the biggest line of shit I've heard. Pot raises estrogen levels, and it doesn't take years to do it. You are more likely to get gyno if you smoke pot during a cycle, I know guys who have gyno just from smoking large amounts of pot alone. Stay away from that kind of shit, maybe moderate doses, but watch yourself. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 303 |
I smoked pot on my cycle, didn't have any problems, I train stoned occasionally and it's very effective. I'm not saying it's right or wrong but I've never had a problem. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 29 |
quote: I'm with you on that man, nothing like a good buzz to really help you concentrate in the gym. I used to do it alot more years ago before I started juicin' but I find when I do bi's and I'm slightly stoned, I really focus on every form detail and get a killer workout. It may not be the way for some but I've never had a problem. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 38 |
I am about tired of hearing this shit. Someone post some real PROF that pot raises estrogen levels. Lets be rational about this. Pot contains THC, which is a chemical that gets you high. It makes you hungry period. I believe that it actually raises your metabolism, but I have no prof of this. I would say that after a hard workout it has its place if one chooses to do so. So I say go for it. It has never hindered anyone I know. Plus the next time you on fina and you have your head up you ass 24/7 think about how you can chill with it. AA | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 38 |
I am about tired of hearing this shit. Someone post some real PROF that pot raises estrogen levels. Lets be rational about this. Pot contains THC, which is a chemical that gets you high. It makes you hungry period. I believe that it actually raises your metabolism, but I have no prof of this. I would say that after a hard workout it has its place if one chooses to do so. So I say go for it. It has never hindered anyone I know. Plus the next time you on fina and you have your head up you ass 24/7 think about how you can chill with it. AA | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 89 |
ROLE UP A FATTY FOR THAT PIMP DADDY!!!!!!! | ||
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Freak
Posts: 2881 |
quote: First off, there are other chemicals in pot besides THC. But, it's not that it raises estrogen. It actually lowers your test levels. That's why you hear about these guys staying up all night smoking pot before they go to the doctor to get their test levels checked. 9 times out of 10 the doc falls for it and prescribes them synthetic testosterone (unfortunately it's never very much). Ask any doctor and they will tell you that smoking pot can be a contributing factor to developing gyno. Don't get me wrong it's still lots of fun when used in moderation. ------------------ Visit my website at http://profiles.elitefitness.com for up to date A.S. info and Organon T-shirts. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 561 |
"OTHER" WAYS TO INCREASE APPETITE: GENSING FOR THE RECORD, POT IS BAD FOR YOU. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE WHO SMOKE IT. I HAVEN'T FOR AWHILE BUT PROBABLY WILL AGAIN SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE. WHAT I CAN'T STAND ARE THESE PEOPLE WHO THINK ITS SOME GOD SENT HERB AND MAKES THEM SMARTER AND HEALTHIER THAN THEY WOULD BE WITHOUT IT. MOST POT ADDICTS I'VE KNOWN, ALL-DAY/EVERYDAY SMOKERS, ADMIT WHEN THEY COME OFF FOR AWHILE THAT THEY ARE BETTER OFF WITHOUT IT. PEACE ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 387 |
I don't see the fascination with pot of many folks on here. I guess maybe if you are still young 18-22 or so it is still a rebel expiramental stage. But if you are older and out in society maybe it is time to grow up and put childish things behind you. Flame me if you wish, but opinions being what they are that is mine. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 803 |
A wise felon once told me to never break more than one law at a time. If you want to gain, juice. If you want to be stoned, smoke. Don't smoke just for the munchies. 4000 calories isn't much to do. Drink 2000 and eat normal. You'll be able to eat more and more if you keep at it. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 282 |
i have smoked doja for about 4 years, but i just started smoking heavily 6 months ago. I should add that i havent used any gear. And guess what, my gains slowed down and i hadnt seen much progress in this time (the 6 months i started smoking heavily). So recently i said to myself "what the fuck is going on here". i looked back at what had changed and corrected a few things. I stopped smoking bud and my aggressiveness in the gym has gone way up. Pot does mellow you out, and these prozac like effects tend to linger. I stopped and i am Seeing improvements again. I don't think smoking here and there will hurt you, but if it becomes a couple of times a week thing it did in my case. But to each his own. You will probably need to find out for yourself. [This message has been edited by JohnyJuice (edited March 30, 2001).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 70 |
Just remember; Don't smoke dope when you are stoned. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1050 |
I used to get angry at these kinds of posts. Not anymore though. Do whatever the fuck you guys want to. But don't come looking to justify what you do with other people that are doing the same thing you are. Kinda like asking a crackhead if it's ok to smoke crack... ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
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I've asked this question to one of my friends and the only reason i asked it was for an excuse to smoke a lot of weed! I think this guy wants a good reason to smoke up, but hey it is a good try, and why the hell not. "Always on the edge" thelegacy | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 38 |
ajc, You are right there are other chemicals in it, but Im sure you know the one that you are smoking it for. I can agree with you on the fact that it could lower test levels but Im sure that there are lots of things that also lower it besides smoking dank. I am saying that looking at It from a chemical standpoint it has good qualities as well as bad ones. I also agree with moderation... AA | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 563 |
Smoke em if you got em....... ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 221 |
i started at safety at a big ten school i have an undefeated nhb record i dont have bitch tits my training continues to progress i smoke mad buddha heehee | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 297 |
pot is safer than aspirin. toke up, bro. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 74 |
For all you mofo's asking for proof that pot can cause tittes............ I had gyno surgery a few years back. All my doctor did during the initial evaluation was keep askin me if I smoked pot. He knew most gyno cases,at least the ones he worked on, were caused from puffing. Why else would he do keep asking me? I still get a fucking itch in the nips when I puff! Thats why all i want to use is anavar and winny. Maybe some EQ will work, but I'm not sure........ Maybe the doc just wanted a source for the super STANK I run through NYC! | ||
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Novice
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hey dude im not here to tell you what to do but take weight gaine r with the roids instead of pot it will put a hell of a lot of calories on and wont fuck up your lungs | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 198 |
There's a lot on PubMed, here's one: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=6316036&dopt=Abstract
Barnett G, Chiang CW, Licko V Clinical studies have given contradictory reports on the effect of smoking marijuana on the plasma levels of testosterone in males. A reanalysis of existing data established that testosterone levels are depressed both after smoking one marijuana cigarette and after intravenous infusion of delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol, a pharmacologically active component of marijuana. Simulation of the marijuana interaction, under the assumption that delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol inhibits testosterone production or secretion, suggests a minimum of 24 hours are required for testosterone to return to pre-smoking levels. A series of clinical studies are specified to clarify the nature of the interaction. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 50 |
Me and my friend both started juicin'at the same time, we were just about the same size and took the same juice. He smoked weed alot through his cycle i didn't. I gained 18 lbs he gained 10. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 213 |
i smoke pot occassionally and have no gyno and great gains in the gym, im sure if you smoke it everyday for a long time you'll see some gyno and lower testo levels, i mean if your on gear on light up the doja its not gonna do shit. | ||
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Freak
Posts: 2255 |
snoop don't forget: Genetics Age Diet Training Sleep etc...contribute to ones gains. I don't think it's fair to say that's why he didn't gain as much as you did. Maybe you ate more or maybe he has a rocket metoabolism. Who knows? Later, Green
BIG ASS BLUNT>>>>>>>> | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1141 |
I'm trying to quit toking as we speak (day 3) and I will tell you that it will most certainly hinder gains..mostly because of lack of motivation/aggression..it didn't affect me when I used to do it occasionally, but once it became a nightly ritual..wish I just said no to drugs (rec drugs, that is). |
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posted March 30, 2001 12:18 AM
