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VegasGuns

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posted March 29, 2001 07:43 PM

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Is norma hellas deca any good compared to say
organon or ttokkyo?


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ajc

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posted March 29, 2001 07:49 PM

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Yes. Organon is touted to be the best, but it's hard to find and even harder to find if it's real.

I have never heard anything bad about Norma Deca. It's always mentioned when someone asks "what's your favorite deca?" The only problem is that it's 100mg/ml instead of 200mg or 300mg (ttokkyo) per ml. If you don't mind a little extra volume, it's not bad. I personally am going to use it instead of the Ttokkyo, because it's supposed to be so good.

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the mechanic

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posted March 29, 2001 07:52 PM

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Normas are very good, but so is the ttokkyo. 100mgs compared to 300mgs per ml.


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VegasGuns

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posted March 29, 2001 07:56 PM

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Not a bad price STK has 200mg amps for $9


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2legit2quit

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posted March 29, 2001 10:46 PM

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Norma's are dosed at 100mg/ml, and they are in 2ml vials (looking at one now), which means each vial contains 200mg of deca. The Organon's are the same I'm pretty sure (100mg/ml in 2ml vial). I haven't seen the ttokkyo's. Are they 150mg/ml in a 2ml vial (for a total of 300mg's of deca), or are they straight up 300mg/ml?


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MJW2000

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posted March 29, 2001 10:55 PM

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I am doing ttokkyo now. It is 300mg/ml. I think it is good stuff and a good price. I've also done Norma Hellas, and I may have like it a little more, but not much. They are both good products.

mjw


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the mechanic

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posted March 30, 2001 01:23 AM

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Both are very good but I prefer the Ttokkyo for the simple reason of it being 300mg/ml, as Normas are 100mg/ml.

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RJNCMEDIC

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posted March 30, 2001 03:38 AM

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I have used both the organon and normal hellas deca... I have seen no difference in them... they both have a concentration of 100mg/ml(2ml vials)... they both have yielded good gains for me... of course, that is stacked with test.... good luck bro!!!!

RJ


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funkedupy

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posted March 30, 2001 06:23 AM

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I have been using Norma and Organon for years and have tried the new ttokkyo and I can honestly say that I much prefer the Organon and Norma. I found it to be stronger cleaner and generally of higher quality. I experienced a really sick feeling after 2 weeks of ttokyo Deca and when I spoke with my sports physician who knows everything about everything to do with deca, and has access to 4 different brands of Deca right now, he told me that alot of people in the community have been getting sick from some impurities in ttokkyo products. I switched back over to Organon and feel fine again and will stay away from ttokkyo until I hear that this is no longer the case.
Just my 2 cents


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king conan

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posted March 30, 2001 10:25 AM

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FUNK, IDONT KNOW WHERE EVERYONE KEEPS GETTING
THIS (IMPURITY CRAP) ABOUT TTOKKYOS GEAR.ITS
(NOT)DIRTY OR IMPURE!!!TTOKKYOS GEAR IS ALL
AWESOME!! NOW,ALSO ORGANON AND NORMA ARE GREAT ALSO.BUT YOU DO THE MATH 300MG/CC OR
100MG/CC GO FIGURE

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coolhandluke

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posted March 30, 2001 10:36 AM

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How can anyone even consider using veterinary gear when there are human-versions available. Not to mention the fact that most mex gear is either underdosed or underfilled. I would much rather inject a few more cc's and pay a little more for a product that meets pharmacuetical standards and is more bioavailable....


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bstrong

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posted March 30, 2001 10:56 AM

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the only bad with norma hellas is that (sometimes) it seems they have a little less then 2ml per amp.


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littlearnold1069

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posted March 30, 2001 03:23 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by 2legit2quit:
Norma's are dosed at 100mg/ml, and they are in 2ml vials (looking at one now), which means each vial contains 200mg of deca. The Organon's are the same I'm pretty sure (100mg/ml in 2ml vial). I haven't seen the ttokkyo's. Are they 150mg/ml in a 2ml vial (for a total of 300mg's of deca), or are they straight up 300mg/ml?
it is 300 mg/ml, in a multi-dose 10 ml vial


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2legit2quit

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posted March 30, 2001 04:06 PM

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Well, I guess that answer's that question...littlearnold.

BTW, bstrong, my norma's all had a little OVER 2ml in them. I guess I got lucky and got the over-filled batch


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Your_Moms_Kneepads

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posted March 30, 2001 04:22 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by coolhandluke:
How can anyone even consider using veterinary gear when there are human-versions available. Not to mention the fact that most mex gear is either underdosed or underfilled. I would much rather inject a few more cc's and pay a little more for a product that meets pharmacuetical standards and is more bioavailable....
Luke. Please dont take this the wrong way but your perspective is a bit skewed since you are in an area (Poland?) where gear is human grade gear is cheap and easy to come by. Yelllow top Organons here-even in So. Cal are at least $15 per amp. Hey If I was buy them for $8 from a local guy I'd probably use them too. I have never used HUMAN gear and have never had an abcess,infection, or sickness. Yes sometimes the botttles are slightly underfilled but when term "filthy" is being used by lots of people in regards to vet gear I have to strongly disagree.
You have to use what you can afford. Anyone who would pay $15 dollars or more for Normas, Organons, or Deca Pronabols while they could get a Denkall Decanandrolen for $120 or a TTOKKYO deca for about the same price is a fool. People always cry "dirty" in regards to the vet gear. If its so dirty why is it that no one I know (including myself) has golf ball sized lumps on our asses?

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king conan

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posted March 30, 2001 07:27 PM

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AMEN!!!!!!!!


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