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 Can you ever get Virgin Receptos after you've popped your cherry?
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 488 |
Can you ever get the gains off of a cycle the way you did on the first cycle you ever did? And if so, how long would it take the make the receptors very clean? I'm getting sick of spending $800-1500 dollars on one damn cycle, so I figure if there's a way to get the receptors clean, either by time off or by another drug I'd love to know....    | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1236 |
DNP!! Use it and you will see. Your gear will be more effective, even at lower dosages. There is some info in the archives on this topic. It really does work. It has for a few of my close friens of mine as well as myself.  | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1091 |
That is just another DNP myth... Before my last cycle... I did 3 sets of 2 weeks cycles at 800mg, and i didnt notice any better gains on my 5th cycle... Got about 15lbs.... You can try it bro, but i have yet to see it work | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 11 |
Am I the only one who doesn't buy the "your receptors are worn out" dogma? The reason you gain less on successive cycles is because you're getting too fucking big, and you can only get so fucking big no matter how much juice you use  In more precise terms, the further you are over your genetic limit the more juice you need to gain and maintain. I would be willing to bet if you juiced up to 250, then lost all your muscle back to 180, juice would be as effective again. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 725 |
The reason gear doesn't work the same has NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR RECEPTORS. If anything, you will get BETTER results after your first cycle in regards to receptor sensitivity to gear. Testosterone INCREASES the numbers of androgen receptors. The problem lies in the liver's ability to metabolise it. Works the same way that you can build up a tolerance to any drug. You can build up a tolerance to gear. The longer you wait post cycle, the less tolerance you will have and the better your results will be. If you still don't see gains as good as your first cycle, well friend, you are experiencing what is known as the placebo effect. Since it was your first cycle, you probably worked out twice as hard. If you had injected canola oil, you would probably have seen awsome gains too. Gear does not work magic. It is all about how hard you bust your ass. -Stew | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 291 |
Thanks Stew. I agree. All of these drugs that are advertised as receptor cleaners: do they work because the user is off juice while he fools around with a new wonder drug?....or do they not work at all. Ironman mag the year before last was claiming prostaglandins as receptor cleaners. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 725 |
Receptors come and go just as the cells of your skin... The idea of "receptor cleaning" is ludacrious. What determines effectivenss of gear aside from how easy it is metabolized (destroyed by the liver) is the NUMBER of receptors. Now, testosterone (and its derivitives supossedly) can have a direct effect on receptor transcription. This has been studied and is well documented. What this means is that while you are taking gear, the number of receptors will increase (upregulate). There is also a lot of research that shows exercise itself can increase the number of receptors (and natural test production). A study on human skeletal muscle shows that hypertropy that occurs from weight training will cause the body to increase its production of testosterone as well as increaseing the number of receptors for that testosterone. The action is not site specific meaning that androgen receptors all over the body are increased. PGF2A, on the other hand, will ALSO cause hypertrophy of muscle fibers which will lead TO AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF ANDROGEN RECEPTORS in a site specific maner. This means that prostaglandids can make for an excellent precycle aid in getting your number of receptors up in preperation for a high dossage of androgens. However, it is not known at this time whether the PGF2A's resulting hypertropy will increase the body's natural testosterone production in the same way that weight training will. The PGF2A will not be metabolized by the liver so it will not interfere with the effectiveness of the cycle in any negative way.
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 683 |
just a thought: you may want to transplant your brain into a baby's body  j/k ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1236 |
Try it! You will see. I have cycled at least a dozen times. After one cycle of dnp, I am making better gains than ever. Another thing is that all the sides have suddenly become stronger as well. Prostate swelling, acne, water retention, and most of all--I actually got the sust flu again the first time I used since the dnp. Now I have used sustanon alot. The only other time I got it was the very first time I used sustanon. Weird eh? |
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posted March 29, 2001 07:19 PM