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Sittin' On Diesel
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posted April 26, 2000 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sittin' On Diesel   Click Here to Email Sittin' On Diesel     Edit/Delete Message
Was reading the current issue of testosterone.net and came across this (since I know some guys are using Penta Pro from ptoteinfactory.com and it contains soy among other proteins)

"In fact, I just read a paper on soy the other day which said that eating 100 grams of soy protein was the estrogenic equivalent of taking a birth-control pill! Makes you want to pass on the tofu, doesn't it?"
http://www.testosterone.net/html/body_101rm.html

No what the hell! There's a link to the Bad Protein Report on there too. It's about 1/10th down on the page.

I've heard some conflicting information on soy, and some say that it can increase estrogen levels in the body. Some say that since phyto-estrogens are a "weak" estrogen they'll bind to the estrogen receptor cites not allowing the estrogen in your body from doing so- which would be a good thing.

I'm not throwing away my Penta Pro yet, I haven't grown any bitch titties or anything of the like. Just wanna give you guys a heads up- and see if any of you all know some more info.

PEACE!

I'm going to email the dudes at proteinfactory and see what they gotta say about it.

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coolhandluke
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posted April 26, 2000 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for coolhandluke   Click Here to Email coolhandluke     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 47436318
the two main phyto-estrogens in soy are far from weak. I would not throw away your protein but i do try to stay away from soy- that shit is everywhere.

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ramrod
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posted April 26, 2000 03:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ramrod   Click Here to Email ramrod     Edit/Delete Message
soys popularity is on the rise, my nutrition teacher who is a R.D. raved about it like it was a wonder drug she's a skinny vegetarian though

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AY
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posted April 26, 2000 04:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AY   Click Here to Email AY     Edit/Delete Message
I have been told by many that soy milk is okay but to stay away from the bean curd due to its estrogen.

Also, soy bean curd has high levels of uric acid that just add to the load on your body. You've got to constantly sweat it out.

I can't show you any scientific references for this, just the talk that has been circulated around family and friends.

AY

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cockdezl
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posted April 26, 2000 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cockdezl     Edit/Delete Message
The two main phytoestrogens in soy are genistein and daidzein. In comparison to estradiol, they are weak estrogens. I would not worry about these estrogens, esp. since there are many studies showing positive benefits from their consumption. Also, daidzein has been shown to increase nitrogen retention in one study.

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Pops
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posted April 26, 2000 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pops   Click Here to Email Pops     Edit/Delete Message
due to the fact that all other protein powders mess with my stomach, i now soely use gnc's soy 95 protein powder. does not mess with my stomach, mixes well and tastes good. am consuming about 125 grams a day so i will let you guys know of any adverse reactions.
by the way, the comment at testosterone.net regarding asians and soy was FUCKIN LUDICROUS!!!!!!!

-Pops

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Sittin' On Diesel
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posted April 26, 2000 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sittin' On Diesel   Click Here to Email Sittin' On Diesel     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah I think it's a load of horseshit.

If the phytoestrogens bind to our estrogen receptor sites- this prevents free estrogen from binding. This could descrease the amount of estrogen in a male body. Plant hormones and animal hormones are quite different. Besides, people have been eating soy for a long ass time- haven't heard any news about some dude sprouting some titties because of it.

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D-Town
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posted April 26, 2000 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for D-Town   Click Here to Email D-Town     Edit/Delete Message
Ive heard the same things but I'm not throwing out my Penta Pro. If worse comes to worse I'll just have them drop the soy.

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What the Hell did you just say!!!

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