posted April 24, 2000 11:45 PM            

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Has anyone tried the short cycle theory? 3-4 weeks on then 3-4 weeks off. I am thinking about given it a try. A few people that I have talked that have tried it, swear by it.

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posted April 25, 2000 10:26 AM            

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Are you refering to the Bill Roberts cycle which is really 2 on 4 off. I'm goin to try it in a few weeks after my dieting cycle is over. I'm going to do 750mg of omnedren on day one and then do finna eod and 4 dbol a day for two weeks, and then just do 4 dbol split up (2 upon rising and 2 a noon) so as not to supress the rebounding T levels and do clomid after. I'm only doin 2 weeks because your body rebounds the fastest after this time peroid and really drops after (3weeks on = 8weeks on) that as far as natural recovery goes. I'll post my results after I'm done.

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posted April 25, 2000 10:56 AM            

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Primo.... keep me(us) posted. I am VERY interested in this theory. I am not someone who will only be happy with 20+lbs gains at a time. I can be VERY happy with smaller more consistent gains.

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posted April 25, 2000 11:01 AM            

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You got it buddy!!!

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posted April 25, 2000 11:04 AM            

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I was thinking of doing a cycle like that too with sust and primo.
wk primo sust colmid
1 400 1750 eod
2 400 1000 eod
3 400 1000 eod
4 400 ---- eod
2 weeks clomid ed

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posted April 25, 2000 11:53 AM            

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short cycles are the way to go, you get the most out of your gear.

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posted April 25, 2000 03:59 PM            

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My understanding is that you should notnuse long lasting gear in the short cycles. For example if you do a 4 week cycle with sust and your last shot of sust is in week 4 then it will be another 3 to 4 weeks until it is out of your system. What this means is that if you were to start again about 4 weeks after cycle completion, you are really never coming off. Just something to think about.

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posted April 25, 2000 07:36 PM         

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I think short cycles are the ONLY way to go!! My athletes respond VERY well to these types of patterns. For example:40mg. D-bol for 3 weeks,1000mg. of Test(cyp,sus etc..) for 3 weeks.Then a 2-3 week off with 100mg. Clomid EOD. Followed by another go with 2 new drugs. I find this works great and most gains are kept!!

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posted April 25, 2000 10:18 PM            

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You can take Sust in a short cycle. You just have to front-load the dose ie take it all in the first week. Shift to fast acting drugs in the second week. I recommend 3 weeks on, 2 off, 2 on, 3-4 off.

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posted April 26, 2000 07:08 AM            

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there are only a few drugs you can use. propionate, anadrol, dianabol, trenbolone, primo, i don't know what else. you can use anything oral.

are you going to bridge with the 20 mg dianabol?

i think that using insulin & creatine as well as the 20 mg dianabol will make a good bridge. but if you continually gain muscle your body might get used to it and slow down.

i don't know if constant muscle gains are better than short quick gains that only last a couple weeks at a time.

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posted April 26, 2000 08:26 AM            

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For me, I start to really gain hard about weeks 4-5 of an 9 week cycle...so a short cycle I dont think...but some of my friends like to make a lot of little gains.

For me...one big hit and then a good break. The last post...bridge with D-bol??? No bridge!

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