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Mr Texas Guns Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 18) |
posted April 23, 2000 01:47 PM
  
Guys, i am takeing 3cc of this a week with 3cc of ultragon and 2cc of sus. what exactly does the denk suppose to do for me and was thinking of not takeing it any more. i was told it and the ultragon was suppose to bulk me up i am seeing some rusults but the sus and d-bol i think is attributing to most of my bulking well any way thans for your input Mr tex guns IP: Logged |
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E2 Moderator (Total posts: 2570) |
posted April 23, 2000 04:42 PM
WHAT I HEAR IS THAT THE DENKANDIOL BONDS WELL WITH THE SEX HORMONE BINDING GLOBUIN THUS TAKING UP SPACES THAT TEST OR OTHER ANABOLICS NORMALLY WOULD THUS FREEING UP MORE ANABOLICS TO BIND TO OTHER RECEPTOR SITES IP: Logged |
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jocko Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 107) |
posted April 23, 2000 07:56 PM
There was quite a discussion 4-5 days ago at: www.elitefitness.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/010159.html and [URL=https://www.elitefitness.com/ubb/Forum1/04-2000/008783/html] [This message has been edited by jocko (edited April 23, 2000).] [This message has been edited by jocko (edited April 23, 2000).] [This message has been edited by jocko (edited April 23, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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Milk_Man Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 39) |
posted April 23, 2000 11:18 PM
LOL, you just can't change some people. Texas Guns, MD has nothing to do with SHBGs. MD attaches to estrogen receptors, sending a signal that causes an increase of IGF-1 and an upregualtion of androgen/anabolic(whatever you want to call it) receptors. But don't worry, it does not cause gyno, it actually prevents it by blocking estrogen from attaching to that same receptor site. Kind of like clomid/nolva does! Most people that actually TRIED IT, have had very good results on it. IP: Logged |
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die_hard842 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 344) |
posted April 24, 2000 12:02 PM
I have posted many times on this product you will find that Denkadiol is a very good product to add to your Cycle when you combine the EQ and Denkadiol you have a very powerful version of the old Aussie product Drive IP: Logged |
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THESAINT Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 417) |
posted April 24, 2000 12:15 PM
The research on Denkandiol is minimal at best. The theory of binding to receptor sites is feasable, but I don't think it makes any difference as there's also a theory that if you saturate your receptors your body will create new ones. That's the theory the mega-dosers go by. I've always had great gains with sust. and d-bol, but I've done 25 or 30 cycles in my life. I'm thinking of trying it "just to see" How many cycles have you done? IP: Logged |
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the truth Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 436) |
posted April 24, 2000 12:41 PM
The only research I've seen that concludes that methandriol binds to any receptors at all indicates that methandriol binds to low-affinity glucocorticoid receptors. I still subscribe to the SHBG theory. Milkman, can you post (or e-mail me) the names of a couple of studies that show that it may bind w/ estrogen receptors? I would be interested in reading them. IP: Logged |
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Milk_Man Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 39) |
posted April 24, 2000 12:55 PM
Sure, as soon as you post the study that shows MD binds more so than test to SHBGs. Or at least give me a lession in chemical structure that shows this potent binding. You know, it don't matter. The truth is the only form of testosterone that can reach the AA receptor is the kind that is bound to SHBGs. SHBGs transport test to the receptor cites, that is one of their functions. Testosterone CAN NOT get inside cells without that binding. That should prove that MD SHBGs theory is bs, but none of you will belive this because your still stuck 10 years back and think medline has all the answers. [This message has been edited by Milk_Man (edited April 24, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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cockdezl Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 43) |
posted April 24, 2000 01:25 PM
Milk, please post your studies showing that SHBG leaves the plasma, crosses the cell membranes, and is required for receptor binding. I have a belief that your idea of MD's estrogenic nature is very plausable (supported by the fact that 5-androstenediol is estrogenic), but your other statements are not supported. Also, I have to disagree with your statement that all who have tried it got good results, I have talked to and read many posts by people who have not gotten good results with MD. [This message has been edited by cockdezl (edited April 24, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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