posted April 23, 2000 02:20 AM            

I am 5'10 170lbs and I'm a jiu jitsu fighter which is why Iam only 170lbs I have to stay in my weight division to defend my state title. Other wise I would do some mass cycles.

Anyway I am taking 300mg a day of DNP and I amtaking vitamin C and E and a shit load of water.

Day 1. I was worried that being a small guy I was extra worried about DNP because I was told that I might not tolerate it as well as some bigger guys even at proportionately lower dosages. But I eventually took the first cap at 11 am with a meal and felt nothing for a few hours, but by dinner time I was feeling extremely tired.

Day 2. I took my dose at the same time and by lunch I was so tired I could not same awake any longer and had to sleep, so far extreme fatigue has been the worst part of DNP and I feel as though I can barely keep my eyes open for more then a few hours let alone train.

Day 3. I was starting to feel a little warm today but nothing significant yet and I am feeling a little more energetic today for some reason. I hope that I am sweating it up by tomorrow or I will start to think something is wrong.

any way I'll post again as the days go by it is dinner time on the 3rd day now.

posted April 23, 2000 06:12 PM         

I found that within a very rapid space of time my ATP stores were drastically depleted, due to the effect DNP has on insulin sensitivity my carb levels were also extremely depleted.

On the second day I was breathing like a racehorse just when I was sitting watching the TV! I found that if I was to be able to train I had to take loads of simple carbs just before training. (NOTE - I am 3 weeks out from competition and this would normally be a bad idea)

However again due to the poor response of natural insulin the body has very little ability to store the carbs and so I noticed a sudden spike of energy and body temperature but the muscle stayed 'flat as a pancake'!

I also observed that if you need to carb load the muscles again you would need to get off the DNP for at least 4 days before a substantial amount can be stored by the body.

Lastly, I too found that after about 3 days (1 dosage a day � the stuff is active for quite some time in the system and if it overlaps it gets very nasty!!!) my T3 levels were depleted to the point that the response from the DNP was minimal.

I hope this is of some use, as I went around trying to find out about it before I went on and all I found was technical stuff and no first hand experiences which are extremely useful and lets you know in advance what to expect.

posted April 24, 2000 02:55 PM            

BTW_- dnp always works- even with extremely low thryoid levels- thats why it was so effective as a fat loss drug for obese women- who typically have almost non-existent thyroid levels.

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MP

posted April 24, 2000 04:03 PM            

try two gallons a day.

posted April 24, 2000 09:31 PM            

I sweated a little the last 2 nights and also after I eat, but except for that and the fatigue, all's well. I am noticing that I have to keep the carbs coming every few hours, though, or I start feeling a little light-headed and it becomes hard to concentrate. I haven't had to work out on it yet. That comes tomorrow morning. I can't wait!

LB, I wouldn't worry about not sweating. It think it's just a matter of how uncomfortable you want to be. If you really want to sweat, take more, but I wouldn't unless you're in some hurry to loss the weight.

posted April 26, 2000 09:41 AM            

This is a great post.

I am considering the DNP route and its good to have someone describe it from their perspective.

posted April 27, 2000 02:29 PM            

looks like DNP is treating you well. I did 400mg a day, 5'8" 210 lb, started sweating a bit on day 3, had air condit which helped with night sweats. Much like others described, was a bit lethargic and had carb cravings- would even sweat at breakfast table. Stayed outside as much as I could, took C, E, Ca, Mg and 1-2 gallons H20 which made the overall experience easy to tolerate. Was 200 lb 4 days after last dose and had lost most of the muscle flatness.

Took 2 weeks off and will now go for 600mg while adding some glycerol fuel and pyruvate as ani suggests