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decibel
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posted April 21, 2000 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for decibel     Edit/Delete Message
i've done some of the most fucked up things when i rage. i've done some REALLY stupid shit.
i just beat the shit out of my best friend. i really didn't mean to hurt him, we were just having a very stupid argument over his dog and i lost my patience. i really regret it. it only lasted a few seconds, but by the time i came to my senses i had already beat him up pretty bad.

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Les
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posted April 21, 2000 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Les   Click Here to Email Les     Edit/Delete Message
I feel ya bro...

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sjb
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posted April 21, 2000 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sjb     Edit/Delete Message
Most of that roid rage shit is bull!! that's your sub-conciuos mind working, and if there is a such thing as a roid rage, do you know how much roids it would take?????? It hits people differant granted, but bro, check your self out first before you blame roids, i've taken to much psychology for that!!!!!!!!!! samson

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decibel
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posted April 21, 2000 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for decibel     Edit/Delete Message
there is NO way that roid rage is bullshit. i am usually a VERY laid back person and it takes A LOT to set me off. i do not have any sub-consciouss hate.
when i cycle i explode with very trivial things. i feel my ears get hot and my face blush, i get tunnel vision and i almost uncontrollably seek to feel pain and destroy things/people (when i am in this state, i seldom feel ANY pain, though). it usually lasts only a few seconds or minutes, until i can gain control of myself.
does anybody else experience this?

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demaroid
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posted April 21, 2000 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for demaroid     Edit/Delete Message
Taking steroids is no excuse to lose control of yourself and hurt people around you. You are still 100% responsible for your actions and we need to provide a postive image for people who use gear if we ever want societies image of bodybuilding to change. I admit there are times when I have felt that juice has screwed with my emotions but if I did something stupid and people found out I was on gear they would just lump the same blind ignorant label on me they have all steriod users for years. Keep cool take a minute and act don't react. Good luck!

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buck o five
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posted April 21, 2000 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for buck o five   Click Here to Email buck o five     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 59192752
You have to maintain self consious and self discipline. I am very mild mannered person and when I was on sus250 I got edgy at clubs, people pushing people into you and shit and playing sports. Your intensity level is projected while you are on. You have to maintain though no doubt about it.

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E2
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posted April 21, 2000 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
I agree that you have to control yourself, now that said when you're taking a lot of androgens i don't care who you are your tendencies become more violent period!!

Just look at cheque drops, they're pure androgens and from what i hear they make you absolutely nuts, i can't wait to get mine!!!!

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Mr. T
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posted April 21, 2000 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr. T     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah I have the same problem. It usually amplifies it when I drink which is once in a blue moon. People pushing you at bars always gets me pissed. But when Im on I have to really control myself. Im a lot more short tempered when on. Add in a strict diet and look out-

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bad brains
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posted April 21, 2000 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bad brains   Click Here to Email bad brains     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 68109812
Well, I get them too every now and then but I mostly rant and rave, usually about dumb shit, I fell off the deep end the other nite when my wife said "no"....you guys know what I am talking about too. I did not hit her just fucking bitched for a long time.....damn I hate when that happens too really!

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POW
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posted April 21, 2000 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for POW   Click Here to Email POW     Edit/Delete Message
I agree bros but demaroid is right we have to controll ourselves but it is difficult

POW

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Jeff_rys
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posted April 22, 2000 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeff_rys   Click Here to Email Jeff_rys     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Decibel, I don't think roid rage is bullshit. Hopely thinks worked out between you and your best friend. Can he ever forgive you ?
It is easy said "YOU MUST CONTROL YOURSELF", but when you are no longer in control of your own mind.....

Jeff

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pauly7
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posted April 22, 2000 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pauly7   Click Here to Email pauly7     Edit/Delete Message
I also am a very laid back person....except when I am juicing. My girlfriends seems to really piss me off almost daily. If you can control your anger on roids you can anytime off of them.

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Pops
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posted April 22, 2000 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pops   Click Here to Email Pops     Edit/Delete Message
androgen induced anger is REAL!!! self control is key. take a breather and/or stay the hell away from those that get on your nerves. control yourself or be repared to do time in the slammer, really.

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Big Wiggs
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posted April 22, 2000 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big Wiggs   Click Here to Email Big Wiggs     Edit/Delete Message
What makes it even worse is when you dieting for a contest and you're juicing. Like most of you when I'm off I'm the coolest guy around but when I'm on a cycle and dieting which I am right now. The little thing pisses me me off. Just step back and take a breather. I just focus it all in the gym.

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Slopain
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posted April 22, 2000 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slopain   Click Here to Email Slopain     Edit/Delete Message
Decibel, I am like you to an extent, I have not beat up anyone close to me, but I get pissed as all hell at those who I think I love most, weird but it seems to be true. Although it may be at its absolute worst when Im driving around and someone cuts me off or something, I get livid, hard to f'n control myself even when I say "its jut a chemical thing in your body so let it pass." Still hard to talk myself out of being pissed.

Slopain

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jackabooswiift
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posted April 22, 2000 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jackabooswiift   Click Here to Email jackabooswiift     Edit/Delete Message
If I remember correctly, they just recently discovered a positive correlation between high testosterone levels and aggression--could of figured that, considering the percentage of violent crimes committed by men. (although, I think much of this aggression seen in men is a reflection of the societal roles placed upon men--If society told women to be the tough strong ones, instead of the dainty-submissive ones {this is changing fast}, I'm sure we'd see an increase in Female aggression).

Anyway, I think the reason we get so edgy on roids is twofold:

1. The biological aspect: the increase in testosterone is truly making us more aggressive.

2. The cognitive aspect: we buy into what we've heard and read about roid-rage, and our knowledge leads us into a self-fulfilling prophecy. Because we believe it happens it really does.

In this case, we're really fucking screwed, because there seems to be a real biological reason for it. The behavior is constantly reinforcing the cognitive aspect.

Also, I have a suspicion that the euphoric feeling you get while on roids, might contribute to the aggression. It seems easier to be short with someone when you feel like the shit... (this could just be me)


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jackabooswiift
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posted April 22, 2000 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jackabooswiift   Click Here to Email jackabooswiift     Edit/Delete Message
Paulie --- can't you get that squatter to go down any further. That guy needs to break parallel.. :-)

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shmucko
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posted April 22, 2000 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shmucko   Click Here to Email shmucko     Edit/Delete Message
Do you guys remember all the hype in the media about enraged steroid user's killing babies and such? I'd like to think that would be enough to realize we should control our anger, with the trouble the stereotype has caused us already.

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egoman
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posted April 22, 2000 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for egoman   Click Here to Email egoman     Edit/Delete Message
if you know you are prone to roid rage then you should work harder on controling your self when on gear.you know when its going to happen because you can feel it coming on,so pull into your self right then.make a consious decision to stop it in its tracks.its not easy i know but after thirty years of roids i know it can be done.just stop and think,walk away. keep bending the bar

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Lqdmscle
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posted April 23, 2000 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lqdmscle   Click Here to Email Lqdmscle     Edit/Delete Message
One has to control the strongest muscle, the brain.

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hiru18
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posted April 23, 2000 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hiru18   Click Here to Email hiru18     Edit/Delete Message
Anyone who cannot control themselves should not even be on steroids. People that have so called "roid rages" give steroids a bad name and will always keep them illegal. The roid rage is a high school myth becauase it seems that kids in high school rage the most. I once had a kid in the gym tell me that he had to stop taking androstenedione because it was making him roid rage and everyone at school was upset because he was angry all the time.
It's all about self control. Don't be fooled, your mind is stronger than your body. You must train to use it wisely.

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A-mass
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posted April 23, 2000 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for A-mass     Edit/Delete Message
It's not absolute bullshit, but it's also not as bad as the general public thinks. We know that not everybody that's juicing goes into a head ripping blind-raged frenzy whenever somebody's in there way. Maybe there are isolated cases with people that are prone to it or with certain AS.

I'm pretty good at keeping my self control, but I've noticed when I'm on I get frustrated with other people much more easily, I have a quicker temper, and I'm just all around a more negative person.

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Mr. T
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posted April 23, 2000 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr. T     Edit/Delete Message
I dont think its a big deal to lose control every once in a while. (As long as you dont get arrested or hurt other people) The biggest wackos are the ones that hold it all inside. Remember, no matter how evolved we are we are still animals. AS definetley brings out that animal side more. (Sex, aggression) If it doesnt, your not taking enough-

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Dexter
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posted April 23, 2000 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dexter   Click Here to Email Dexter     Edit/Delete Message
A few weeks back I nearly got into a fight on the subway with four teenagers who were standing in the aisle and fucking around...slapping each other, etc. I was standing next to them. Suddenly, something snapped in me, and I hit one of them in the small of the back hard enough to knock his breath out. And I looked at all of those guys and just yelled, "Fuck Off!" They moved to the end of the car, but one of them wanted to fight, but his buddies dragged him away.

I've been much more restrained since then. I don't like to lose my temper or control. And I hate the term "roid rage," but I know what I'm feeling - on occasion - is clearly due to my cycle. Most of the time my mood is good. Gotta be restrained and just not let things get to me that otherwise wouldn't.

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BigCatratcho
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posted April 23, 2000 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigCatratcho   Click Here to Email BigCatratcho     Edit/Delete Message
Beating the shit out of a friend is bullshit.

Androgens make the user plenty aggressive, but when you let yourself get out of control, that's just YOUR OWN LACK OF RESTRAINT.

And before anyone flames me, yes i have gotten out of the car during a driving altercation, and I've raised my voice and I've stood toe to toe with guys I had no business doing that with (read coulda killed me)

But all that talk about blacking out and snapping isn't caused by AS. Those cats who do that stuff do it when thier on drugs or off. It's a personality disorder.

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jackabooswiift
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posted April 24, 2000 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jackabooswiift   Click Here to Email jackabooswiift     Edit/Delete Message
Hey big T-- Scientists, (ok-mostly Psychiatrists) have recently tried to debunk the whole, letting out aggression is good for you. They've chalked it up as an excuse to justify behavior. When in reality, all acting out like that does, is train you to be aggressive. Stress and aggression levels tend to trend higher when that type of behavior is entertained...

Sounds fucking hypocritical from my mouth, considering I shattered my hand punching an oak door. I should of went for the sheet rock.. although with my luck, I'd hit a stud :-(

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