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Go Fast Man Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 14) |
posted April 21, 2000 04:06 PM
  
I was wondering if any of you out there might know the effects of cocaine on bodybuilding. I am not an abuser of the drug; I just don�t feel like dealing with the after effects of any of those other designer drugs out there. Smoking just seems to stupefy you, drinking is a no go due to my A\S use, and E and all that other shit just leaves a dent in your brain. (I need my brain, as I computer engineer). Coke just seems to be what the doctor ordered for those nights in clubs dancing with my girl� or finding new ones. (Don�t worry its only about once of twice a month I get to go out to a place like that). Any advice of the effects of the drug on my gains would be appreciated. Sorry if it is out of line posting something like this on the board, but I see people asking marijuana questions all the time. Standing by for flames. Go Fast Man IP: Logged |
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buck o five Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 162) |
posted April 21, 2000 04:08 PM
I'm Microsoft certified (MCSE+I) and I smoke weed on occasion. Tried X once but nothing else. Doesn't make me lazy, stupid, ignorant, whatever you want to call it. You control what you do, not the drugs. IP: Logged |
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bstrong Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 117) |
posted April 21, 2000 04:14 PM
cocaine would fouck up your sleep, your apitate and muscle gains IP: Logged |
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Go Fast Man Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 14) |
posted April 21, 2000 04:20 PM
I am also a MCSE. (As if that knowledge means a shit in the field for someone who was an active consultant prior to attaining the certification). When I was young I smoked pretty much daily. While you are constantly using the drug the side effects are not noticed. Try not smoking chronically for 3-4 months and look at the difference. I will have you know that there is not a drug on this planet that will ever be able to "control" me. (Although this Damn testosterone feels great)! IP: Logged |
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tri~zilla Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 209) |
posted April 21, 2000 04:44 PM
hey go fast, i've heard coke releases certain hormones that can create a catabolic enviroment. now the real go fast (meth) eats muscle like a freight train if your not taking a good amount of a/s's. the reason might be a sharp decrease in appetite and raised metabolism put together are twice as negative. but with coke raised metabolism only lasts for an 15 mins to an hour then slows down, close to normal rates. both can really put stress on your heart every time you use. this is just my opinion, but these drugs only bring negative reactions to our bodies. i should know i used both for years . adios, ------------------ IP: Logged |
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lexicon Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 51) |
posted April 21, 2000 05:16 PM
There should not be one positive thing said about cocaine. I know you are not a big user but once a year is too much. Stay away from it. Cocaine is one of the biggest problems in the USA and is for total losers. Don't go for the it's not crack stuff and only once in a while. You either do it or you don't. Anybody into their bodies should know not to even look at it. I won't even get into the problems caused by c when used along with gear. People who got into it 20 years ago had an excuse but with all thats happened since everyone should know the deal on it. IP: Logged |
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Mr. T Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 403) |
posted April 21, 2000 06:03 PM
I dont know, I tried it when I was younger and it was pretty fun. Great sex drug. Anyway, I dont know of any research done on Coke and AS. I know guys that did both and they looked awesome. The Coke burned off all the pudge from the cycle- IP: Logged |
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got big? Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 22) |
posted April 21, 2000 07:52 PM
Yes.. Cocaine is DEFINITELY something to stay away from. There's nothing good about it. Some people can do a line here or there, but some of us can't get enough, no matter how much money it takes. Goodbye to appetite, sleep, and any dreams of getting big cause the gym is the last place you'll go unless your source is a bodybuilder.. As bad as anyone thinks steroids is, i'd do 12 month cycles before i touched that evil white powder again... play it safe guys. IP: Logged |
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NEWMAXX Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 41) |
posted April 21, 2000 10:35 PM
You never hear of anyone dying an OLD AGE from cocaine. It deteriorates every cell in your body. Put the shit down, we are trying improve our bodies not destroy them. (no flame intended...it's bad shit no matter how you slice it) ------------------ IP: Logged |
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bad brains Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 434) |
posted April 21, 2000 10:47 PM
This should'nt even be considered, fuck coke and all the other substances, get high going to the gym, get high watching yourself grow, get high on anything but this bastardized shit.....stay away from it....I dont want to sound like I'm preaching but I made the mistake of using that shit "socially", fuck it all.....Cant beat the high you get from lfting, leave the other shit alone....trust me on this.... ------------------ IP: Logged |
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macrophage69alpha Moderator (Total posts: 1288) |
posted April 22, 2000 01:52 AM
I AM NOT AN ADVOCATE OF COCAINE USE, HOWEVER SOME OF THE COMMENTS MADE IN THIS THREAD ARE RIDICULOUS. LET SEE IF WE CAN CLEAR THINGS UP A BIT There should not be one positive thing said about cocaine. THE LEAF THAT COCAINE IS DERIVED FROM HAS BEEN USED FOR THOUSAND OF YEARS BY THE ANDEAN PEOPLES AS A NERVE TONIC AND ENERGY ENHANCER. I WOULD SAY THAT MANY PEOPLE ALSO FIND IT TO BE AN EXCELLENT PARTY DRUG- THOGUH I WILL AGREE FOR SOME THE PARTY BECOMES A CONSUMING FACTOR IN PEOPLE'S LIVES- MOSTLY BECUASE THEY DONT KNOW THEMSELVES WELL ENOUGH TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS. I know you are not a big user but once a year is too much. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS- I HAVE SEEN NO EVIDENCE WHAT-SO-EVER THAT CAOCAINE USED IN MODERATION AND IN INFREQUENT INTERVALS CAUSES ANY LONG TERM HEALTH PROBLEMS Stay away from it. YOU SOUND LIKE AN GOVERNMENT INFOMERCIAL Cocaine is one of the biggest problems in the USA and is for total losers. HMM?? CAN WE SAY BRAIN WASHED. Don't go for the it's not crack stuff and only once in a while. You either do it or you don't. I KNOW PLENTY OF PEOPLE THAT CAN USE ALMOST ANY DRUG IN MODERATION, IT IS VERY SAD FOR THOSE WHO CANNOT- IN THIS I WILL AGREE. THERE ARE SOME DRUGS THAT ARE MORE ADDICTIVE THAN OTHERS- KNOWLEDGE IS THE KEY- IF YOU KNOW YOURSELF YOU KNOW WHEN SOMETHING FEELS "TOO GOOD". Anybody into their bodies should know not to even look at it. DRINK ALCOHOL INSTEAD- THATS A LOT BETTER FOR YOU I won't even get into the problems caused by c when used along with gear. WELL OTHER THAN POTENTIAL BLOOD PRESSURE PROBLEMS, I CANT IMAGINE WHAT YOU MIGHT BE REFFERING TO- PROBABLY BECAUSE YOU DONT KNOW. People who got into it 20 years ago had an excuse but with all thats happened since everyone should know the deal on it. EVERYONE KNOWS THE GOVERNMENTS PROPAGANDA- I GUESS THAT YOU ALSO BELIEVE THAT ANABOLIC STEROIDS DO NOT ENHANCE PERFORMANCE AND WILL NOT INCREASE MUSCLE MASS. It deteriorates every cell in your body. I REALLY WONT EVEN TOUCH THIS LUDICROUS STATEMENT- BTW- THE PROCESS OF LIFE IS ITSELF THE PROCESS OF CELLULAR DECAY- YOU ARE "DETERIORATING" FROM THE DAY YOU ARE BORN Some people can do a line here or there, but some of us can't get enough, no matter how much money it takes. Goodbye to appetite, sleep, and any dreams of getting big cause the gym is the last place you'll go unless your source is a bodybuilder.THIS STATEMENT ALTHOUGH A LITTLE ALARMIST IS MORE EVEN KEELED- THE MONEY ISSUE IS THE REAL PROBLEM WITH COCAINE ADDICTION- SO I THOUGHT I MIGHT TAKE THIS MOMENT TO ONCE AGAIN PUT FORTH MY ECONOMIZE DRUGS AND DECREASE CRIME THEORY BY LEGALIZING THEM AND TAXING THEM AND REGULATING THEM- HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE HURT BECAUSE THEIR DRUGS, WHATEVER THEY MAY BE, ARE ADULTERATED? FOR THOSE OF YOU WHOSE POSTS I INCLUDED IN MY SPIEL, I AM NOT TRYING TO FLAME YOU, I JUST THINK THAT YOU ARE NOT LOOKING AT THE BIG PICTURE AND DISCERNING BETWEEN REALITY AND THE GOVERNMENTS VERSION OF IT. ON A MORE CONSERVATIVE NOTE- I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT UNDER OUR CURRENT SYSTEM OF LAWS AND WITH THE SKYHIGH PRICE OF COCAINE- ADDICTION CAN BE A TERRIBLE THING. PEACE ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Pet Rock Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 18) |
posted April 22, 2000 02:40 AM
What a joke! You sure you weren't high when you went off on that 100 line dietribe. You are way off base and might want to do a little homework on addiction. IP: Logged |
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Jay Z Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 79) |
posted April 22, 2000 02:51 AM
I agree with most of what Micro has said...In switzerland they legalized heroin and cocaine recently because the addicts were afraid of getting caught and they used dirty needles and stuff...now the gov't provides them with a shelter and clean needles..and gets them slowly off the habit. IN the US they dont' even want to consider a needle exchange program...they'd rather see people die of HIV from reused needles...Everywhere in Europe needleexchange programs are being offered... ------------------ IP: Logged |
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macrophage69alpha Moderator (Total posts: 1288) |
posted April 22, 2000 02:53 AM
PET ROCK I REALLY ENJOYED YOUR INTELLECTUALLY STIMULATING CRITICISM OF MY POST. THANKS BTW- I BELEIVE THAT I UNDERSTAND THE NATURE OF PHYSICAL AND PYSCHOLOGICAL CHEMICAL DEPENDENCY- IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THE UNDERLYING SOCIAL AS WELL AS BIOCHEMICAL CAUSES OF SUCH DEPENDENCY- I AM MORE THAN WILLING TO OBLIGE.
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lexicon Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 51) |
posted April 22, 2000 02:57 AM
MP No offense but how can you responsibly say this? Of course not everyone has addictive tendencies and C may never cause problems to a small % of people. Also, as a whole the type of people on this board are probably more prone to addictive behaviour, just look at all the drug posts. Maybe the Coca leaf has some good about it but we are not talking about chewing leaves here. The end product of the leaf along with dozens of toxic chemicals is cocaine. You are right though in saying that my post looks like a goverment message, It's hard to get others to listen/respect what you say as nobody knows what any of us are really like. Guess good advice brings respect. Peace IP: Logged |
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Jay Z Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 79) |
posted April 22, 2000 02:58 AM
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macrophage69alpha Moderator (Total posts: 1288) |
posted April 22, 2000 03:12 AM
Lexicon I agree that chewing coca leaves is not the same a snorting or smoking refined cocaine. I also agree that the people on this board may be more prone to addictive behaviour. However, to say that cocaine should not be used by anyone is outside the realm of reality. Another factor, that perhaps, I did not stress enough was that Cocaine is a powerful mind/mood altering drug that should be used with full knowledge about the drug and yourself- so thus in that respect people who are not at that level of self awareness and knowledge about the drug itself- should probably avoid taking it. In addition, I must seriosly add that if cocaine were legal addiction would be a MUCH less serious problem that could be dealt with through education, rehabilitation, therapy- both psychological and chemical, etc... you might ask how we might pay for all these services? 1. drug taxes 2. the 2-3 hundred billion dollars saved on inmates not incarcerated for drug related offences 3. the money saved on enforcement of a failed "prohibitionist" drug policy. But then again, thats just my opinion. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Pet Rock Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 18) |
posted April 22, 2000 03:22 AM
Think we will have to agree to disagree. I am not much for the whole drug justification conversation. It's kinda like talking about the benefits of nuclear power while your hair falls out. IP: Logged |
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bignate73 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 360) |
posted April 22, 2000 03:31 AM
well of course i have to say something. now mind you i didnt do any research prior to writing so if you choose to flame thats cool. we can go round and round about the pros and cons or what we think are pros and cons to each. basically each of us has our own view on this subject and each of us can probably turn up some research to justify our position. there is an answer out there for whatever side of the fence you choose to stand on. we can call addiction a disease, based on some physiological "dependencies" that someone has found. or we can call it a mental weakness, or lack of willpower to control ones own actions. i wont go on with that, but you can see my position on it. the decision will have to be made by the individual involved to research as much as he can, if hes truly serious. if not then he can join the others in this country taking things to escape, and be irresponsible about it. quite frankly if someone needs something to have a good time dancing with the ladies,and i see no better time to be had as it is, i would say take some test so you can be a peter north if you get her home. thats my rant on this. the original question got lost here, regarding the interruption of his gains etc. apparently there are no studies on this for a reason. serious athletes are considered to be serious about their body. noone is in south america chewing coca leaves, this is cocaine powder. and who is to say what is mixed with it, ajax, anything that a dealer chooses to mix in it to squeeze out some profit. ive seen it done so dont tell me it doesnt happen. its up to the individual, if they are posting on here for justification on that activity, then they themselves dont seem strong enough to control their own lives. p.s. this is a touchy subject for me, as you can see, i dont want to see any of the bros getting fucked up for a temporary feeling of well being. want to have fun? be the biggest fucker in the club and watch how reality is altered before your eyes. suddenly people are alot more accomodating. heh heh [This message has been edited by bignate73 (edited April 22, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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macrophage69alpha Moderator (Total posts: 1288) |
posted April 22, 2000 03:44 AM
bignate I agree with some of your points, especially with regard to the problems with purity- I certainly agree that dealers can be greedy thugs that adulerate their drugs thus cuting their costs and increasing the risks to the consumer- Once again legalization would solve this problem and make it affordable- which beleive it or not seems to be the biggest problem with cocaine addiction. There certainly are other problems both social and physical that may manifest as the result of addiction and abuse, however it is the money issue, the inevitable destitution and crime that stems from having an expensive addiction, that I beleive causes the greatest harm to society. However, your criticism of people taking drugs to "let loose" once in a while seems like a little of a "I am better than you becuase I can party without drugs" kind of statement. but maybe I am misinterpreting it. pls excuse my grammer-lazy
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THE STEEL BEAST Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 46) |
posted April 22, 2000 04:03 AM
JUST SAY NO TO DRUGS!!! HUGS ARE BETTER THAN DRUGS!! IP: Logged |
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tri~zilla Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 209) |
posted April 22, 2000 08:47 AM
macro, i understand your point on government hype look what they've done to gear. but i didn't just listen to their "say no 2 drugs" adds, i took it for 3-4 years and from personal experience muscle gains are hindered. what positive reactions does cocain cause besides energizing us? i just think that the negatives out weigh
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NEWMAXX Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 41) |
posted April 22, 2000 11:35 AM
Mac, I understand you wanting to control the rant but, cocaine use does accelerate the aging process, as you state ..(paraphrasing)we are all dying from the day we are born. Maybe I was being extreme in my verbage but the truth remains, and I know you agree there is no posistive aspect to cocaine use. The practices of native cultures chewing on the coca leaf is far different from the typical cocaine user or abuser. I worked in the substance abuse field for 5 years back when cocaine was suposedly non-addicting - mid late 80's...and have seen a lot of bad shit. Yes there are people who party with it and get away with it but, you have to ask yourself why do it in the first place. Education is lacking I would agree, as with a lot of "drugs" ...again, this does not fall in the same category in my opinion. I respect your posts Mac, just a sore subject with me. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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macrophage69alpha Moderator (Total posts: 1288) |
posted April 22, 2000 03:06 PM
I would like to say that I understand why so many people are so vehemently against cocaine- I know that many peoples lives have been destroyed by it- I understand that seeing a friend or loved one fall into the cycle of addiction can be a very painful experience. But many more peoples live are destroyed by alcohol as well as the lives of the people and family around them- however because alcohol is legal it is not nearly as financially devastating and its abuse does not as frequently lead to financial ruin. What I am really trying to get at is that cocaine may be extremely addictive- but if it were legal would it be as much of problem as alcohol? There are other aspects to my argument, I really just try to get people to think about why some drugs are so maligned and others readily accepted- Are these decisions that are made based on knowledge or merely bad experiences and propaganda- FREEDOM AND SELF DETERMINATION IS WHAT I WANT FOR EVERYONE- THOUGH I MOST CERTAINLY WOULD PREFER THAT SUCH FREEDOM BE COUPLED WITH KNOWLEDGE AND SELF AWARENESS.- THAT IS THE REASON FOR MY RANT.
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POW Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 56) |
posted April 22, 2000 04:57 PM
Cocaine is out if your serious about BB or PL. It decreases your power and strenth, I know. You loose your appitite and decrease in size. I leave it up to you to decide. POW ------------------ IP: Logged |
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jackabooswiift Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 42) |
posted April 22, 2000 06:21 PM
Cocaine, although probably an intense high, just seems to tip the cost/benefit ratio way to the costly side. My fear in the use of cocaine is the addictive component. Although, chewing cocoa leaves has shown to have no ill effects, (because only small amounts of cocaine enter the bloodstream in a gradual manner), sniffed or injected cocaine is a different story. The cocaine blocks the re-uptake of dopamine, serotonin, and norepinephrine from one neuron to another, which leaves an excess of them lingering in the sending neuron as well as the synaptic gap (place where the two synapses are the closest). This is what cause the euphoric rush associated with cocaine. Cocaine seems to raise dopamine concentrations by binding to the mop-up site, thus blocking its re-uptake of dopamine. Unfortunately, once the cocaine level drops, the absence of the neurotransmitters produces a crash. This crash is what makes coke, as well as many other things so addictive. When we've experienced something that makes us fell so high, we naturally want to do it again... Especially in this case. Once the coke wears off we end up with a lack of dopamine, which seems like hell compared to the previous dopamine rich state. This is what leaves consistent coke heads needing coke to feel good. Dopamine is some good stuff... Scientist's are finding dopamine to be the key ingredient in addictive behavior. Take this cocaine study done on monkey's for example. Monkey's once being reinforced with cocaine for pressing a lever, will press the lever more then 12,000 times (without receiving any coke) to get an injection. That's some potent shit.... Anyway, I hate to rant about this, not to mention bore you with the scientific stuff. I guess i could have just stated that, because of what coke does to you brain, it's to addictive to be worth trying...The last thing I need is to be dependent on is a drug that can be harmful to your body (I'd end up taking to high a dose and going into cardiac arrest) and is damn expensive. [This message has been edited by jackabooswiift (edited April 22, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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shmucko Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 28) |
posted April 22, 2000 06:43 PM
I was listening to Love Line on the radio the other night (with Adam Corolla and Dr. Drew) And Dr. Drew (board certified addiction medicine specialist) said if coke doesn't kill you when your on it, there aren't any long term effects, physical effects that is. Just remember this fact, you can't get it back, and I wish I still had that $100 in my pocket and would have gotten to bed before 9am. I did nail some big tittied stripper who got off work at 5am. Pro and cons, you decide. IP: Logged |
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T-BONE Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 34) |
posted April 22, 2000 07:05 PM
Even though it's not what you want to hear, I will tell you my experiences with coke. I never used it, but I used to sell it. And NO I am NOT proud of that or bragging about it. But I have seen many people start just as you, "ONLY" once or twice a month. Then eventually it got to the point where I actually felt bad giving it to them. I've seen people waste to nothing from it. AVOID it!!! You will enjoy it at first, then want to do it more. Before you know it, it will have you under control, not the other way around. I honestly feel bad about all the peoples lives I've fucked up, I'd hate to see you or anyone else do it to themselves. Be safe and stay away from the drugs. IP: Logged |
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bad brains Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 434) |
posted April 22, 2000 10:12 PM
It just occured to me..What the fuck do question pertaining to cocaine doing on a bodybuilding board?I thought we, at least I know I am, were here to learn about A.S., not recreational drug use.Its personal choice but its not something that is worth taking up space on the board.I'm here to learn, and "feel good" drugs I care nothing about.Just my opinion but I am going to voiceit...... ------------------ IP: Logged |
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MattTheSkywalker Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 522) |
posted April 22, 2000 10:36 PM
Bros, I AGREE with Macro. Drug use is a personal choice, and for those not addicted, it's an individual decision. As for my opinion, I have seen coke fuck up a few lives bad. if you're going to do it, it's your call, but I am personally against it. Matt IP: Logged |
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NEWMAXX Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 41) |
posted April 23, 2000 01:38 AM
Bump to mac...good man ------------------ IP: Logged |
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got big? Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 22) |
posted April 23, 2000 02:22 AM
Macro.. you quote my message and write: FOR THOSE OF YOU WHOSE POSTS I INCLUDED IN MY SPIEL, I AM NOT TRYING TO FLAME YOU, I JUST THINK THAT YOU ARE NOT LOOKING AT THE BIG PICTURE AND DISCERNING BETWEEN REALITY AND THE GOVERNMENTS VERSION OF IT. I happen to be speaking from REALITY as I have used quite enough of the junk to know all too well about the downfalls of it. And yes, I agree it should be legal. The stuff is so easy to get it's rediculous, and I live in a little town far from any cities. IP: Logged |
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komododragon Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 68) |
posted April 23, 2000 08:23 AM
I'll keep it brief. Coke suppresses your appetite, you will lose weight with heavy weekend use. Sigmund Freud, Walt Disney amoung a few that were regular users (Freud was a hardcore addict), that were undisputed geniuses. IP: Logged |
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malakai Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 30) |
posted April 23, 2000 11:57 AM
Fuck Cocaine. That is the worst shit you can do. I used to be a coke addict and it sucked. It will make you skinny , fuck up your sleep , it is bad for your heart, expensive. Stay away from it. It is not worth it trust me IP: Logged |
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Jay Z Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 79) |
posted April 23, 2000 12:43 PM
i didn't know you did coke malakai...bad boy...hey welcome from UG ------------------ IP: Logged |
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susthead Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 101) |
posted April 23, 2000 12:53 PM
its up to the individual if you wanna use coke when you party its up to you from a logical point of view once or twice a month would not do much damage if any at all its when its abused like every day.. but no recrational drugs are really any good for your bodybuilding.. IP: Logged |
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masster_blasster Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 39) |
posted April 23, 2000 03:54 PM
I would not use that shit.... If you want to party all night take 200mg of caffeine and 1 adipokinetix tablet, 2-3 kava kava tabs and a vitamin about 1 hour before you go out. Once you get to the club drop 1 X tab. You will be fucking flying. Do not drink. When you get home, take some 5-HTP it will definetely help boost your serotonin levels and it will help you avoid that "retarded" feeling that X can give you. I hope my info helps masster blasster IP: Logged |
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flossin1 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 34) |
posted April 23, 2000 08:19 PM
GOT to give you that one masster.GOOD CALL. IP: Logged |
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flossin1 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 34) |
posted April 23, 2000 08:19 PM
GOT to give you that one masster.GOOD CALL. IP: Logged |
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WILDMAN Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 23) |
posted April 24, 2000 01:24 AM
>Have never seen a happy ending wuth C use.Usually becomes more important than anything else. >Only dopes use dope. IP: Logged |
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Go Fast Man Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 14) |
posted April 25, 2000 10:33 AM
Thank you for all the info. There has been much conflicting information on the subject. But i seem to have absorbed the genaral opinyon of coke, and bodybuilding. IP: Logged |
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Go Fast Man Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 14) |
posted April 25, 2000 10:34 AM
Sorry really beat the shit out of the spelling on that one! IP: Logged |
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AzNpUmP Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 78) |
posted April 25, 2000 10:57 AM
Not a flame but this is the dumbest Q I have ever heard. I understand that E and Weed can damage the brain (alittle) but Coke can really do more tham just kill a couple of brain cells. It only takes 1 try to be addicted to that shit and then your life is over. Be smart bro. AzNpUmP IP: Logged |
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toni Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 62) |
posted April 25, 2000 11:06 AM
I HATE COKE..(I JUST LIKE HOW IT SMELLS)...LOL IP: Logged |
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