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 Low Dosage Long Cycle: A Beginners Guide
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Twisted_Steel Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 9) |
posted April 20, 2000 02:34 PM
  I am encountering a number of young people, younger than myself at 21, asking, begging for information on "as" and a proper beginners cycle. I am of the impression that alot of these kids are being given the wrong advice by chemically experienced veterens who abide by "more is best" philosopy. I myself at 21 215lbs 10% bodyfat have waited and could wait longer to build upon an already solid base before I enter the Darkside. When i do cease to be "natural" I have every intention of crawling before I Sprint. Im giving two peices of advice to the people that come up to me, and I would like to hear some of your feedback on this. Quite Frankly this is the most educated polite group of discussion board people on the net so here goes. A. Wait Wait Wait as long as one can with solid diet, sleep, and training to build a base max out your genetic potential. B. Dont bomb androgen receptors on your first cycle with harsh androgens and orals. The novices body is ill-equiped to handle the toxins released from such drugs, "Vitamin "A"nadrol and D-ball". 200 mg of Primo for 8 weeks. Put on 5-10lbs a little clomid afterwards, just in case and go from there. Thanks, Godbless ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Twisted_Steel Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 9) |
posted April 20, 2000 02:59 PM
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kosfer Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 130) |
posted April 20, 2000 03:10 PM
 Welcome to board brother and thanx for the advice. I am new here too and clueless when it comes to AS. ( The pro status just means I had over 100 posts thats all) You advised to wait for a plataeu before juicing which is what most people recoment. For the past month there has been a HUGE battle in my head. Part of me says do it the right way and be patient, wait a couple years ( I'm 24 BTW) and do it right. But, there is the other side of me that says fuck it! go for it now. My goal is 30lbs, period! I will not compete or anything like that, I Just want to see some meet in my bones. I can understand when people advice people under 21 not to juice for the apparent reasons. But my question remains. WHY in my case should I wait when all I want is 30lbs. I've been working out for 3 years and and been exercizing all my life. The most I've ever been was 160lbs. That is my limit. Bottom line...Is it that wrong to go for 2 cycles to get those 30lbs that I want right now? Help me ease my mind... IP: Logged |
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Twisted_Steel Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 9) |
posted April 20, 2000 04:14 PM
Thanks for the welcome brother. My current training partner is 24 245lbs right now at approximatly 5'10. he routinely cycles close to 1000mg of primoteston per week, along with the occasionaly winstrol/equpoise/dbol. He started at age 17, wow young huh. His a bit of a zealot when it comes to juice. More is definatly better. I would assume that at the age of 24 and with the significant amount of time behind you in the gym, and your lack of desire for the competative circle, I would experiment slowly with your gear. Give 200mg of primobolan depot a go. Avg price is anywhere from 12-18 dollers per 50mg amp for 8 weeks. People will say that this shouldnt adversly affect your natural base production, but just to be on the safe side purchase some clomid "1 doller" per pill to aid you post cycle. After that run, and with some time off gradually venture off into something more potant. Im by no means any where as knowledgable or experiences as some of these gentlemen, but common sense and a bit of intelligence tell me to be patient and start slowly. We only have one live and 2 kidneys ------------------ IP: Logged |
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kosfer Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 130) |
posted April 20, 2000 05:06 PM
Thanx for the reply, take it slow is what I'll do. My thoughts right now are primo, deca, maybe D-boll, test (small amounts, don't want to loose my litlle buddy w/ the deca)and of course clomid and some Nolvadex on the side just in case. Those are just thoughts I'll do a lot of research before I decide what to do, how to stack and how much. As I said I don't care about huge gains I care mostly about permanent gains. If its going to take me a year and three cycles then so be it. I want to minimize water retention and gyno odds. Anyone's comments are mostly appreciated. IP: Logged |
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TwinGATs Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 98) |
posted April 20, 2000 05:44 PM
you should have trained for awhile and pushed your genetic limits...before you go for the juice....If you have done this small amounts of juice won't work.... IP: Logged |
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kosfer Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 130) |
posted April 20, 2000 10:02 PM
This is not a flame but, did you read what I said? IP: Logged |
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