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 Winstrol - DBol cycle - need advice on how to stack and is it a good stack?
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buck o five Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 141) |
posted April 19, 2000 07:57 PM
   I think everyone basically knows my specs on here. The name says it all brothers!! IP: Logged |
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KANE Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 224) |
posted April 19, 2000 08:43 PM
You'll be a buck even once your liver is fried. Why do you want to take winny and dbol together? ------------------ IP: Logged |
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buck o five Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 141) |
posted April 19, 2000 09:02 PM
I'm just checking around for some good advice. I have sus too so I could stack it with dbol also and save the winny IP: Logged |
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THESAINT Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 411) |
posted April 19, 2000 09:33 PM
Winny and d-bol are fine stacked. Take 30mgs of d-bol a day and 150mgs of winny every three days. Taper down. Sust. d-bol is great too. With winny and d-bol, you won,t hold as much water. IP: Logged |
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KANE Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 224) |
posted April 19, 2000 09:53 PM
If he weighs 105 wouldnt he be better off with test and save his liver the trouble. Holding on to water is good when you weigh 105. Dbol and winny arent high on my list of good stacks. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Milk_Man Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 36) |
posted April 19, 2000 10:06 PM
200 posts and still clueless. Yhea, last time I did 30mg/d-bol and some winny I lost my liver. Listen, just because its 17AA don't mean shit. d-bol and winny are purfectly safe. the ONLY drug that will damage your liver that I'm aware of that is widely available is ANADROL. everything else is very very safe in reasonable amounts. IP: Logged |
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KANE Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 224) |
posted April 19, 2000 10:17 PM
Milk Man. Listen schmuck ball. Explain to me why he would a guy weighing 105 would take winny and dbol. Why not take test and save the liver the extra stress and get bigger at the same time. It seems to me you dont know shit! Its common knowledge winny and dbol are both hard on the liver. ------------------ [This message has been edited by KANE (edited April 19, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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buck o five Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 141) |
posted April 19, 2000 10:26 PM
who are you calling schmuck fuck face!!!??? You don't know what the fuck I know and a username doesn't mean shit!!! If you think it is then maybe your username should dick head!!! Is this a discussion board about AS or discussion board to put people down that you don't know? [This message has been edited by buck o five (edited April 19, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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KANE Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 224) |
posted April 19, 2000 10:30 PM
I was refering to milk man. Not you. Sorry RELAX BRO I just think test would be a better choice for you. [This message has been edited by KANE (edited April 19, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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buck o five Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 141) |
posted April 19, 2000 10:36 PM
It's cool man - no worries IP: Logged |
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Bush Pig Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 15) |
posted April 19, 2000 10:37 PM
Girls, girls, girls can you smell the testosterone? Feel the rage! I would leave the winny for when you are wanting to harden up. For size use the sus and d-bol. Just mind that rage. IP: Logged |
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buck o five Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 141) |
posted April 19, 2000 10:38 PM
cool - I appreciate the advice guys IP: Logged |
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KANE Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 224) |
posted April 19, 2000 10:39 PM
Its the Fina and the diet man.  I was happy on test  ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Slim Whitman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 112) |
posted April 19, 2000 10:39 PM
Anybody using two orals at the same time is just asking for problems. And in my opinion, anyone that weighs 105lbs needs to EAT and TRAIN a hell of a lot more before they even think about using steroids!!!! I don't really know anything about you, but can only imagine the AWSOME gains you could have from using supplements alone, along with a good training program and a healthy appetite. I know this isn't what you want to hear, but if I'm the only one to tell you this, I would be totally suprised!!! If you insist on using anything, go with the Sus and the dbol. Winny is used most for cutting up, and at 105lbs, you have nothing to cut!!!! I'm not trying to put you down, or flame you, just give you some GOOD advice. They are 17aa for a reason, BECAUSE THEY ARE TOXIC TO YOUR LIVER. No, they may not hurt your liver immediately, or ever, but putting the two together only increases that risk that much more. Why risk it when you don't need the winny in the first place, that is if your looking for mass. And to use steroids, with so much unachieved natural potential, is a mistake. Just my two cents... Slim IP: Logged |
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airtyme Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 368) |
posted April 19, 2000 10:55 PM
Buck, If you have access to winny dbol and sust, I am going to "assume" that you can get some deca, eq or primo. I don't know what you weigh so I am going to guess that you are wanting mass. I would definately leave out the winny, for now. If you combine dbol and winny at the sametime it will be hard on your liver and there are also ways to protect it. But that is not the reason for leaving out the winny. If you are a small guy and you are tring to bulk up the only benefit from the winny that you will get is that it will increase your strenght and that in turn will allow you to lift more which will put more stress on the muscles WHICH will lead to more muscle gain. (Whew) However, you will get plenty of strength increases from the dbol and/sust. So mark out the winny for a later date. What you should probably do is throw in some eq or deca or primobolan. This will help you keep the gains when you finish the cycle, otherwise you will lose most of them. I hope you already know about clomid so I want even go there. I hope this helps. Just remember this. The best stacks are the ones that have a strong androgen for strength temporary size combined with a good anabolic for the retention of your gains. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Milk_Man Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 36) |
posted April 19, 2000 10:56 PM
Kane, fool, moron, whatever you go by...Have you ever done d-bol? HAVE YOU? I doubt it. I, among others, have gone to 50mg/day and above without any trouble whatsoever. Now go read your flex or pump and give us some more of your knowledge. 200 post full of shit. To the rest, 17AA means little compared to the structure of the molecule. Sure, 17AA will put more stress on the liver, but not by much. Unless your talking about someing like anadrol. Don't belive anything you read in world anabolic review. And the reason you want both winny and d-bol in a cycle is that d-bol has no AR activity while haveing high non-AR activity, and winny is the opposite. So you get the best of both worlds. And if you think that taking 25mg winny + 25mg d-bol over 50mg d-bol will somehow damage your liver even more you got a lot to learn [This message has been edited by Milk_Man (edited April 19, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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buck o five Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 141) |
posted April 19, 2000 11:40 PM
alright guys, I'm not really 105 lbs - I'm actually 140 but since I have been on my diet I have gained more then a few pounds. I've gained about 20 pounds and I am on a cycle right now of sus and have been for 4 weeks but I want to stack it with something. Dbol or deca preferably but I also have some winny and from what I have been hearing for advice is that I should take the winny after this cycle to cut. IP: Logged |
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THESAINT Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 411) |
posted April 20, 2000 03:55 AM
BROS, The question was "I have winny and d-bol, is it a good cycle." The answer is YES. There are better cycles for mass building, but you can also get some nice gains on winny and d-bol. The only reason winny is considered a cutting drug by some is because you don't hold water. IP: Logged |
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KANE Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 224) |
posted April 20, 2000 07:57 AM
Listen Milk Man. If you want to make this personal. Feel free to e-mail me. You have still failed to tell me why winny and dbol are a good stack. IP: Logged |
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Milk_Man Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 36) |
posted April 20, 2000 10:41 AM
maybe you should learn how to read as its very fuckin clear why winny + d-bol is a very very good stack. Even more than the legindary d-bol plus deca. So let me expalin it to you more, steroids have two main mechanisims of muscle growth. By stimulating the AA receptor or via other non receptor pathways. D-bol has no affinity for the AA receptor and all the growth comes from non AA actions. Winny has very high affinity for the receptor but almost no non-receptor action. So what do you get when you put the two together, very good results. Why is it better than d-bol+deca, because deca will only add the the d-bol bloat while winny will shed some of that bloat. Learn or leave. IP: Logged |
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OMEGALOS Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 102) |
posted April 20, 2000 11:00 AM
Guys, let's try to help one another, not argue, we are here to trade knowledge and experiences, and encourage safe, effective use of AS. Let's do that. So chill a bit boys. Buck o five, in my opinion, youve gained 20 pounds so far on your cycle- thats fucking good for thats 20% of your weight. I would put in some deca if youve got it with the sust.. Save the dbol for your next cycle. Finish this one, wait couple three months, then do your next one. Youve got time on your side. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Starski Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 10) |
posted April 20, 2000 11:02 AM
This all sounds very interesting as I am on a Stanazolol cycle, 1st week, isn't Stanozolol the same as Winstrol? Therefore would it be worth adding some D-ball into my cycle and if I did would I have to to cutdown my Stan intake as I plan to peak at 50mg per day in my middle of my cycle? I know this my be detracting from the Topic slightly but can anyone offer advice on this? Thanks IP: Logged |
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Milk_Man Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 36) |
posted April 20, 2000 11:17 AM
yes, same thing. If I were you I would take 100mg Winny every day orally(separated into 4 times a day) and add 35mg d-bol for very good results. IP: Logged |
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KANE Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 224) |
posted April 20, 2000 06:13 PM
Milk Man, IF you have any balls and have a problem with me PLEASE E-mail me. I still contend that there are much better stacks for size then winny and dbol. That being said you dont know me so dont assume anything about me. All I can say is your very tough in cyber space, but I wonder about face to face. You seem to have something to prove. It may stem from your childhood who knows. So if you have a futher need to prove something stop wasting board space and e-mail me. Otherwise bury it, people read this board to gain knowledge not hear us argue. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Dutch Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 178) |
posted April 20, 2000 07:57 PM
Milk_man i like your posts..i realy think you know your shit, but it would help if you did some explaining.. (yes i also did 50 mg dbol and some oral stano and i liked it) however i do believe that 100 mg of oral stano is far to much.. 25 to 30 mg is more than enough with dbol.. i would like to know why 50 mg anadrol is worse for the liver than 50 mg dbol.. Thanks Dutch IP: Logged |
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buck o five Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 141) |
posted April 20, 2000 08:02 PM
anadrol is more toxic on the liver than dbol is what should have been said. anadrol, if not is, then it is in the top 3 most toxic as's out there [This message has been edited by buck o five (edited April 20, 2000).] [This message has been edited by buck o five (edited April 20, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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TEXASAMM Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 77) |
posted April 20, 2000 10:41 PM
I THINK IF U HAVE NEVER TRIED A PARTICULAR STEROID AND ONLY READ ABOUT IT U SHOULDNT POST LIKE U HAVE!! D-BOL AND WINNY ARE VERY GOOD TOGETHER I PREFER INJECTING THE WINNY IM ON THIS CYCLE RIGHT NOW AND I ADDED POLYSTERON ON TOP AS MY MEAT AND POTATOES CYCLE IS GOING GREAT WINNY WILL PUT SOME REAL WEIGHT ON U IF TAKEN WITH HIGHLY ANDROGENICS/ANAB. STER. IT IS NOT ONLY A CUTTING DRUG BUT A SIZE DRUG A VERY VERY GOOD ONE! SAMM IP: Logged |
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RAGING BULL Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 100) |
posted April 21, 2000 12:04 AM
You guys are kinda like arguing over which ice cream is gonna make you fatter-vanilla or chocolate. They both can. Granted, I think 100mg of oral winny a day is a bit much, but I have tried the stack and grew like a weed. Winny and A-bombs really kick ass. Big, pumped, vascular and "strong as bull". Winny is really a "best of both worlds" steroid. Just about any combo of gear is going to be better than no gear, so can't we all just get along? Some people really respond to certain types of AS, so let's be happy when we grow. Peace. RAGING BULL IP: Logged |
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jackabooswiift Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 28) |
posted April 21, 2000 01:54 AM
if you're 19 or under, you might want to wait on the test. It might stop the growth of your long bones, not to mention reck havoc with your mood and skin. Winstrol, or even better primobolan, seem to be better for people in their late teens that really can't wait to start. Unfortunately, I haven't a clue about the effect of d-bol on any of the above, so I have nothing to add there... If your old, just disregard what I've just said... [This message has been edited by jackabooswiift (edited April 21, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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Kahn Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 7) |
posted April 21, 2000 02:13 AM
105 said he had access to deca and D-bol. That's reliable and he could keep the sos rolling, too.(Kahn not Kane)I'm the new guy IP: Logged |
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