posted April 19, 2000 06:34 PM         

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I just got off a four week fina and omnadren cycle and I have not lost any strength or real size a week and a half post cycle after clomid...I think four weekers might be the way to go...any body else tried this

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posted April 19, 2000 06:36 PM            

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i did a winny cycle only for 4 wks and gained 10lbs and dident loose an ounce its been 2wks now with no clomid...

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posted April 19, 2000 07:20 PM            

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Explain why this 4 week cycle makes any sense at all, especially when you're using sustanon??????

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posted April 19, 2000 08:10 PM            

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yeah i was thinking in trying something about that because i read some page ..in the internet called NEW CYCLE THEORY (im gonna try to find it) which said that short cycles would harm less than the 8-12 weeks cycles in which you also loose some of the weight

Did anybody read that???? im very sure someone in here did.

[This message has been edited by nariclas (edited April 19, 2000).]

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posted April 19, 2000 10:44 PM            

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Sust will work in a 4-week cycle, but you need to front load ie take your entire dose for the cycle in the first week, then move to fast acting drugs for the rest of the cycle. Suppression will still occur. If done correctly, the AS will pretty much be out of your system at the end, so your time off is really time off. There is no magic to it; I've tried short cycles (3 of them) and liked them fine, but I'm currently on a conventional 8-week cycle -- the short cycle ultimately is probably not as practical for most of us as is the conventional cycle.

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posted April 19, 2000 10:53 PM            

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i read this on the boards in the search engine let me go find it

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posted April 19, 2000 11:03 PM            

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go to the search engine search for length of anavar cycle, it is an article from t-mag posted by BIG RICK ROCK i think it should be the first one on the list

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posted April 19, 2000 11:05 PM         

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I always do 4 to 6 week cycles depending on the gear. I think it works great and you don't shut down your test as bad.

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posted April 19, 2000 11:10 PM            

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i would post the whole article but it is huge

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posted April 20, 2000 10:35 AM            

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Past 2 weeks of testosterone supression, the natural testosterone levels in the body take about the same time to return to normal for 4 weeks of supression as for 8 weeks. So you might as well throw in the extra 3-4 weeks and try to squeeze a couple of extra lbs out of your cycle. At least that's what Bill Roberts says. Look up past articles in T-mag, he did a whole article about cycling.

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posted April 20, 2000 02:50 PM         

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I don't know why a four cycle would work E2, but I know that I gained 20 lbs in four weeks and I have kept atleast 18lbs and not lost any strength...I actually have been noticing some strength increase post cycle...I think that this might save money..like primo man said about the axis disruption, but I get most of my gains in the first four weeks and not much after that...SO WHY WASTE THE GEAR,TIME and MONEY....I think I will stay with four week bulking cycles and longer cutting cycles...I will keep all of you updated...

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posted April 20, 2000 02:55 PM            

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Your still making gains because your still using. Omnadren will last a month in your system.

Unity66!

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posted April 20, 2000 07:07 PM         

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...When I said I was off for ten days...I didn't mean that it was ten day from my last injection...ten days free of juice....after all the half lives and stuff

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posted April 20, 2000 07:28 PM            

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i think 8-12 wk cycles can be to long, depending on what you use. im going to try one for 5 weeks, i believe i have a better chance of getting all i can out of 5 weeks instead of struggling with 10. i personally had troubles eating in the last couple of weeks of my last cycle, i dont want to put to much stress on my self.

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posted April 20, 2000 07:35 PM            

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Decadon......email me bro.

deltman

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posted April 20, 2000 07:42 PM            

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Unity66 is right. You haven't lost any size
because you're just getting off. Sust.
can last up to a month in your system.
Personally I like 12 week cycles. I have
done two 12 week cycles back to back with
2 to 3 weeks in between and got better
gains on the second 12.

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posted April 21, 2000 12:41 PM            

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Okay you guys say that a 4 weeks cycle should be good what do you then have to say about this, im 23 years old, weight�s 87kg slim 178 cm tall and havent done any AS.

for 5 weeks : deca 400mg/week and 4 d-ball/day.

Just curius cause thats what i have easy acces to, but off course im gonna use clomid.
Or should a wait till i get access to more AS before starting this cycle.

Bluesy

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posted April 21, 2000 01:47 PM            

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Bluesy check e-mail!

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posted April 21, 2000 01:51 PM            

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bro the sustanon is still active in your body thats why you aint lost anything or any strenth sust lasts in the body a month if you wanna do short cycles use propinate.

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posted April 21, 2000 01:53 PM            

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call me stupid but i'm trying the 4 week cycle starting in a week, and i will do two of them over the course of the summer

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posted April 22, 2000 01:37 PM            

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bump

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posted April 24, 2000 10:48 AM            

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So if I was to use Sustanon in a short cycle like this, I should do it all up front? Would 4 Grams be too much? Then I could do Primo/Deca at 400-600 or dbol 6 a day for 4 weeks as well? Clomid ed or eod from day 1?

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posted April 24, 2000 12:54 PM            

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Joker, 4 grams isn't too much to front load. Don't use deca or primo for the rest of it though. Use propionate, fina injections, winny or suspension.

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