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razorbackmuscle
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 19, 2000 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for razorbackmuscle   Click Here to Email razorbackmuscle     Edit/Delete Message
When on a cycle of test or any other anabolic substance that increases estrogen levels in men...fat gain and water retention are highly likely. If high estrogen levels are associated with fat and water gain....Will Clomid help to reduce fat gain like it will water retention?

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razorbackmuscle
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posted April 19, 2000 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for razorbackmuscle   Click Here to Email razorbackmuscle     Edit/Delete Message
Bump...

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dude
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posted April 19, 2000 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dude     Edit/Delete Message
Yes clomid will help if you take 50mg EOD. It will not work as good as Nolvadex but you will get more gains. You should worry about getting big now and cutting up at the end of your cycle.

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SlaveMaker
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posted April 20, 2000 04:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SlaveMaker     Edit/Delete Message

Well here's a little personal note about clomid. I've been on for a year and taken clomid @ 50mg/ED. I then switched it a few months ago to 1/2mg/arimidex alternating clomid 50mg/EOD. Theis was smoewhere around 2 months ago. About 2-3 weeks after I stopped taking the clomid @50mg/ED, I got nut shrinkage around half there usual robust size.
So I started taking the clomid ED again and wihin the end of the week they return to there healthy normal size.
note: This was quaged by myself and 2 different chicks(neither one aware of the other + neither knew anything about any gear or gear related activity heh heh).
I still notice water retention except when I go to 1mg/ED/arimidex. I don't do this because I feel it is overkill and bad for growth.

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Joseph_stalin
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posted April 20, 2000 05:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph_stalin   Click Here to Email Joseph_stalin     Edit/Delete Message

i've heard nolvadex helps in weight loss. i think that that is the reason why people say it cuts into muscle gains. it causes fat loss and lowers overall size

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Primo_man
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posted April 20, 2000 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Primo_man   Click Here to Email Primo_man     Edit/Delete Message
I read in Bodyopus that it does contribute to some fat loss, but not as effecively as eca or clen. Dan says that he took it for about a year and while on it, he was definenatley leaner that when he was off.

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susthead
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posted April 20, 2000 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for susthead   Click Here to Email susthead     Edit/Delete Message
i dont think novaldax cuts any quality muscle gains it just stops the water retention and so you dont apper as big.

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razorbackmuscle
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posted April 20, 2000 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for razorbackmuscle   Click Here to Email razorbackmuscle     Edit/Delete Message
Slavemaker,

Did you notice any difference in Fat gain/loss when on the clomid vs. Arimidex?

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buck o five
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posted April 20, 2000 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for buck o five   Click Here to Email buck o five     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 59192752
what about using nolvadex and clomid. What can be gained or lossed from this?

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SlaveMaker
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posted April 21, 2000 05:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SlaveMaker     Edit/Delete Message

RazorbackM:

The arimidex definately makes me harder.
But the clomid keeps my nuts the proper size.
A while back I started taking arimidex and dropped the clomid. Glandular swelling quickly occured as the arimidex couldn't do anythig about the already present estro.
It's funny but at times I've thought clomid made me a little more puffy.

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