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swede
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 19, 2000 05:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for swede   Click Here to Email swede     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 3232323
I need help with a long cycle...6 months or so...should i switch gear every third week? i have done abuout 10 cycles before but i have not been "on" for more than 12 weeks before...


/Swede

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Mudworx
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posted April 19, 2000 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mudworx   Click Here to Email Mudworx     Edit/Delete Message
You gonna get flamed for this one Newbie!!!
Why the hell do you want to do a 6-month cycle!!!???

Do some reading first, then ask the questions.

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Joseph_stalin
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posted April 19, 2000 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph_stalin   Click Here to Email Joseph_stalin     Edit/Delete Message

hes not a newbie. hes done 10 cycles.

why don't you use insulin & growth hormone? do a 12 week cycle with insulin & gh thrown in. that might restart the growth process.

or do a paul borreson androgen loading cycle.

i have no advice about long cycles. a pro bodybuilder once said that he took every 4th week off, and it helped him avoid side effects. so you might want to try that. 3 weeks on of one drug, one week off, 3 on of another drug, one off. for months on end.

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Luca Brasi
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posted April 19, 2000 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Luca Brasi   Click Here to Email Luca Brasi     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 68955173

A 6 month cycle will be awefully hard on the body and is real not neccesary unless you are a pro BB or something. Why do you want a cycle that long??

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susthead
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posted April 19, 2000 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for susthead   Click Here to Email susthead     Edit/Delete Message
a long cycle will be ok as long switch the durgs about every 3-4 weeks . and use clomid of course.. but i find 12 weeks the best anylonger you just stop growing your body gets used to the gear and then you have to move to high dosages and then high side effects!.

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the truth
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posted April 19, 2000 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for the truth   Click Here to Email the truth     Edit/Delete Message
I see no advantage to switching gear. Joseph's suggestion about the insulin and GH is a good one.

Stay away fron Borreson's cycles. Far away.

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gearseeker
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posted April 19, 2000 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gearseeker   Click Here to Email gearseeker     Edit/Delete Message
Hey bro,

Ive had done two six month cycles. Both were to prepare for contest. The first three months I used test, deca, methandriol, anadrol. The second three months I switched to primo, WV, eq, fina. I used HGH and insulin throughout the six months. I used HCG at the end of the test/anadrol.

Ideally I like to take four weeks off in between cycles to let my receptors recover. But, I did make better progress using the six month cycles than using short 8-12 week cycles over the previous years.

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swede
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posted April 19, 2000 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swede   Click Here to Email swede     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 3232323
thanks, i�m going to add some gh and insulin
to my cycle...i will keep u guys updated!


later...


/Swede

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E2
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posted April 19, 2000 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
Swede if you need help mail me your cycle and i'll help you with it


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marky
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posted April 19, 2000 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for marky     Edit/Delete Message
If your going to do a "long" cycle, then
it would be a good idea to do some research on the boards regarding BRIDGING. That means
at the end of a heavy androgen cycle, you bridge between cycles with low doses of muscle keepers like Equipose, deca or other mild andro. I had the best year in 12 years last year when i did 2 hard test, deca. dbol
cycles finishing with winny and then 4 months of only Eq. at 300mg/2weeks. When i started the next cycle, it was like i was receiving a baton on a track oval! You dont have to be a pro to want to look good year round, but you do have to be an adult and recognize all potential consequences of such a decision. I may do another year on sometime, but for now ive proven to my self
the answers to some ofthe questions i have when i read about the pros!

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Platinum
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posted April 19, 2000 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Platinum   Click Here to Email Platinum     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 53840868
From what I have read/seen long cycles can be done with very good consequences. Like was said earlier you have to switch it up with growth and insulin. But in my opinion you might be able to actually upregulate over a prolonged cycle which is what we would all love to do on every cycle. If you do attempt a really long cycle give us the updates. I think it is a very valid question for a newbie.

Platinum

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studcj
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posted April 20, 2000 12:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for studcj   Click Here to Email studcj     Edit/Delete Message
Damn,
how long is it gonna take you to pay back this loan that your taking out for the cycle??

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"I can, because Im crazzy!"
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Juicer56
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posted April 20, 2000 02:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Juicer56     Edit/Delete Message
have talked to a pro's(dexter jackson) "consultant" and he said what they do is still use the cycle theory but switch androgens every 2-4 weeks and do heavy androgens(depending on season) for 8-12 weeks then use only anabolics during their off period(usually 4 weeks) along with 16+iu gh and insulin and every thing else under the sun the whole time, he was actually honest and said when you get to that level of competition because everyone has got their diet and training dialed in its all about the drugs.....note. just passing on information i was told from pro BB's consultant not giving advice

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kram696969
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posted April 20, 2000 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kram696969   Click Here to Email kram696969     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 15497701
ye$, expen$ive...$$$$$

kram-mark
just do'in my best...

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