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 Clomid - really all that?
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Mudworx Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 151) |
posted April 19, 2000 04:33 AM
  
Clomid's pharmacological action is two fold. Firstly, it acts as an anti-estrogen and secondly it helps stimulate natural test production at the end of a cycle. I have read that Clomid is not as effective as Nolvadex in blocking estrogen receptors and doesn't work as well as HCG in jacking up your natural test levels at the end of a cycle. Surely it would be better to dump the Clomid and use the 2 aforementioned drugs for their more effective specific purposes? Comments? IP: Logged |
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johnny1111 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 39) |
posted April 19, 2000 05:55 AM
I hear using nolvadex while on a cycle can slow down and cut into your gains. While clomid will not. I'm sure others can add to this info.-John IP: Logged |
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bignate73 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 315) |
posted April 19, 2000 06:45 AM
clomid specifically is not used to block estrogen, as far as in a cycle goes. nolvadex is used at first onset of symptoms ie gyno. and yes it can hinder gains. clomid is just used primarily to keep your body producing test, to ease coming off of the cycle. if it wasnt used throughout, a person would have to taper to come off and risk crashing nonetheless at the end. as far as hcg goes, it is a)more difficult to use than taking clomid(pill) and b)is used more for a jumpstart and not a maintenance type action. at least thats how i understand it. hope that helps. peace! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Mudworx Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 151) |
posted April 19, 2000 07:01 AM
I think you are both correct! Gyno has never been a problem for me but we all wanna keep our gains after our course. My only problem with Clomid is that it is so damn expensive in my country! E2 and the boys recommend you take it during and after your course - that'll damn bankrupt me!!! IP: Logged |
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susthead Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 84) |
posted April 19, 2000 08:58 AM
clomid and hcg are best for getting your test back up. stack them 50mg clomid a day 2500iu hcg every other day for 3 weeks. IP: Logged |
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E2 Moderator (Total posts: 2447) |
posted April 19, 2000 04:56 PM
I disagree with most of the statements here, clomid is much better than hcg , but novaldex as you said is a better antiestrogen. Now as we all know, removing all estrogen is counter productive, it's a matter of keeping it at reasonable levels that's benficiary. Hence the use of clomid. HCG will produce as much if not more estrogen than it will testosterone, so if you're on hcg you need a strong anti est, as well it does nothing for HELPING your body to reinitialize it's own natural test production. it just replaces it waiting for your body to hopefully start up again. clomid is all you need. IP: Logged |
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BIG RICK ROCK Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 198) |
posted April 19, 2000 05:54 PM
WOW, E2 has spoken as always to clear the muddy water, thanx bro!. IP: Logged |
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LittleSavage34 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 253) |
posted April 19, 2000 06:00 PM
No one ever said using steroids would be cheap. If you are going to do a cycle half-assed, you might as well not do it. ALWAYS have Clomid and Nolvadex handy. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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