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 Vanadyl....Any Good?
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Snow+Ice Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1) |
posted April 17, 2000 10:38 PM
 
Hey Guys, Great site! Does anyone know if Vanadyl is effective either alone, or as a part of a cycle? IP: Logged |
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BIGBADFKR Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 200) |
posted April 17, 2000 10:40 PM
i have used vanadyl in the past, and from memory it was supose to be a insulin mimicker, it used to give me good pumps during a workout, but that was about it. IP: Logged |
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ruffy Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 147) |
posted April 17, 2000 10:48 PM
Vanadyl is very good for making your muscles hard and defined. You can get the best results from vanadyl if you combine it with creatine and diebencozide. The best diebencozide on the market is from a mail order supplement company called, Vita-Life Sport Products. Later IP: Logged |
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XXXWICKED Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 2) |
posted April 17, 2000 10:50 PM
I use Vanadyl quite a bit, never tried it on a cycle but, i rarely do a cycle alone it gives you a good pump, and makes you feel much harder, in my opinion vanadyl and creatine are the only 2 worth while suppliments...............my 2 cents,,,X IP: Logged |
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XXXWICKED Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 2) |
posted April 17, 2000 10:52 PM
oh yea ..... you do need to bump up the dose a bit................x IP: Logged |
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E2 Moderator (Total posts: 2431) |
posted April 17, 2000 11:07 PM
Vanadyl sulphate is crap, it's useless unless you have a disordered insulin metabolism to the point of producing disease, all studies that have been done with vanadyl have been done on diabetic animals who were severely diabetic. Your requirements for vanadium are easily met by a good diet. Hate to tell you this but vanadyl is very toxic and vanadyl poisoning presents itself as a flu. Don't believe me?? Domingo JL, Gomez M, Liobet JM, Corbella J, Keen CL [This message has been edited by E2 (edited April 19, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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Quadzilla43 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 185) |
posted April 17, 2000 11:25 PM
Once again, E2 has spoken. All heed his words, for they are the truth. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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marky Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 281) |
posted April 18, 2000 09:40 PM
Haveing ages ago worked for GNC, 90% of whats sold in their stores are crap! (As far as BB needs go). Dibencozide, Chromium nicitonate, vanady sulfate, Frac, Gaba, HMB, prohormones. The only products i ever got something from were complex carb drinks, protein, and Yohimbine and ma haung. I bought the real yohimbine HCL in ensenada once and well-its "hard" to look discreet while training on it! A bedroom +++ IP: Logged |
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cockdezl Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 26) |
posted April 19, 2000 12:44 AM
Vanadyl does work in normal insulin functioning animals: Bendayan M, Gingras D. Roden M, Liener K, Furnsinn C, Prskavec M, Nowotny P, Steffan I, Vierhapper H, Waldhausl W. Related Articles "Non-insulin-like action of sodium orthovanadate in the isolated perfused liver of fed, non-diabetic rats." Domingo seems to be the lone voice in the toxicity argument, since the majority of the other researchers do not seem to corroborate his findings. IP: Logged |
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