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kanuk
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 17, 2000 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kanuk   Click Here to Email kanuk     Edit/Delete Message
This is my first post, and yes, I have been following this board for about 3 weeks. I'm impressed with the wealth of information available here. I have some questions I hope you can help me with. First, I am 35 years old and weigh 185, 5'11". I've been training hard for the past 8 months and have made some decent gains by following a good diet and a strict regimen. I still want to build more muscle and lose some more fat around my midsection. My muscle gains and fat loss have both slowed and I'm looking for ways to improve. BTW- I am not interested in becoming huge, my goal is a body like the guys in mens fitness/muscle and fitness mags rather than flex. Will AS help me or do I just need to work harder and longer?. How do you know when you've reached your "natural potential"?. Are there more/different side effects for men my age if I use AS. If AS would help, please provide recommendations on which ones and how much. Thanking everybody in advance, sorry for the long post and the many questions.

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DRRman
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posted April 17, 2000 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DRRman   Click Here to Email DRRman     Edit/Delete Message
I seriously doubt you have reached your genetic potential in 8 months bro. I doubt a lot of those guys in mens health are juicing either, they just don't have enough muscle mass to have juiced. I think you could get to that point just through very hard work, strict diet, and committment. Remember, you can only do it if you absolutely decide you want it. Good Luck Bro.

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BigDallas
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posted April 17, 2000 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigDallas   Click Here to Email BigDallas     Edit/Delete Message
you're gains will be slow, but you could still make some more progress naturally. AS could aid in your obtaining that men's health physique.If you choose to use AS, I reccomend a cycle of primobolan depot and winstrol. Use the primo at about 400mg a week.It produces good "hardness gains" along with moderate size gains.You will need clomid for after your cycle for sure...it's a must for a man your age.Try taking an ephedrine/caffeine/aspirin stack during the last two weeks of your cycle and for two weeks after.Combine all these things and a good diet and some cardio, and you can have that physique you desire.

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E2
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posted April 17, 2000 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
I think low doses of winny or eq say 200 mg a week or 350 respectively.

Or primo at 400mg/week should do you some good, as well as clen or eca.

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kanuk
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posted April 17, 2000 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kanuk   Click Here to Email kanuk     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the info guys. I know that I haven't reached my natural limit after only 8 months, I guess I'm just looking for faster results. With respect to the suggestions, would there be an oral, single drug alternative that would help me? I know that everyone seems to favor the injections but I'd like to stay away from them for personal reasons. Thanks again.

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BIG RICK ROCK
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posted April 17, 2000 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BIG RICK ROCK   Click Here to Email BIG RICK ROCK     Edit/Delete Message
Well dude you can get some Winstrol and Primobolan in Pill form but it's gonna be alittle more expensive and the primo a little harder to find plus the winny is more toxic in pill form, the standar winny pill has only like 2mg of winny and if you need to take 300mg a week then do the math
(150 pills)
it's all up to you, just take the danm injections is what I say!

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kanuk
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posted April 17, 2000 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kanuk   Click Here to Email kanuk     Edit/Delete Message
Appreciate the suggestion. Cost is not a huge concern, taking 150 pills, however, doesn't sound so good. Neither does the toxicity issue. What about the primo, is it available in higher dosages per pill and what about its toxicty? I also read about another one, Anavar I think. Any feedaback on it?

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