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kevin
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posted April 17, 2000 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kevin   Click Here to Email kevin     Edit/Delete Message
Hey guys, I'm about to start a cycle of sus250 and deca. I'm taking low dosages just b/c I'm not worried about blowing up off one cycle. Money isn't a problem and I figure I will just take another cycle down the road. The main this is that I avoid side effects as much as possible. How much should clomid help me in avoiding water retention, raisin nuts, gyno, and hair loss? Thanks guys.

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Luca Brasi
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posted April 17, 2000 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Luca Brasi   Click Here to Email Luca Brasi     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 68955173

Clomid is'nt gonna do you much good for the water retention, hair loss and gyno bro.
Just a small bit of advice sust and deca is'nt the best cycle for someone wanting to avoid side effects that is not in a huge hurry for the size.

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qui
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posted April 17, 2000 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for qui   Click Here to Email qui     Edit/Delete Message
Couple buddies have been doing 3-months on, 6-months off with sus/deca at 200mg per week for several years now. Both are in excellent health, visit the doctor twice a year (are open with anabolic use) and have well defined physique and low body fat. They both maintain strictly dosage at 200mg per week and have even managed to father a few kids on the 6-month off duration. One works as a fireman, the other is a medical tech

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..Just a small bit of advice sust and deca is'nt the best cycle for someone wanting to avoid side effects that is not in a huge hurry for the size...

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kevin
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posted April 17, 2000 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kevin   Click Here to Email kevin     Edit/Delete Message
yeah, I agree that these two aren't the best as far as side effects go. I got them at a very good price and I know for sure they are ligit so I'm gonna take 'em. 2 more questions: is the hair loss permanent and is there somthing you can take to help prevent the hair loss? Thanks again guys.

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RAGING BULL
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posted April 17, 2000 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RAGING BULL   Click Here to Email RAGING BULL     Edit/Delete Message
Kevin,
Yes the hair loss is permanent, but usualy only affects men predisposed to MPB. Also, at those doses, I woudn't be too concerned. If you fit the group though, try Propecia or Proscar, they block DHT from doing harm.

RAGING BULL

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BuffNStuff2k
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posted April 17, 2000 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BuffNStuff2k   Click Here to Email BuffNStuff2k     Edit/Delete Message
From what I've read, Clomid does help stop water retention and gyno. It binds to the estrogen that causes that, preventing it from working. Hair loss is in your genes. Clomid also helps the raisen nuts. I'm on a cycle of Sus and Ref-B and am using the Clomid eod during the cycle. So far I'm satisfied.

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macrophage69alpha
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posted April 17, 2000 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
UNFORTUNATLY, LOTS OF MISINFORMATION HERE.

#1 MR. BRASI- CLOMID IS QUITE EFFECTIVE AT STOPPING GYNO, IT WILL REDUCE WATER BLOAT, AND IT MAY HELP YOU KEEP YOUR HAIR AS ESTROGEN IS IMPLICATED IN HAIR LOSS AS WELL AND NOT ONLY THAT IT WILL KEEP YOUR NUTS FROM SHRIVILING UP.

#2 RAGING BULL- PROSCAR AND PROPECIA DO NOT BLOCK DHT AT THE RECEPTOR- THEY WORK BY INHIBITING THE 5 ALPA REDUCTASE ENZYME IN SCALP TISSUE- THEY DO WORK IN OTHER TISSUES BUT THEY WORK BEST IN THE SCALP- AT LEAST ACCORDING TO THEIR LITERATURE. THE PROBLEM WITH TAKING THESE WITH DECA IS THAT 5-A REDUCTASE TURNS NANDRALONE INTO DHN WHICH IS A VERY WEAK METABOLITE- SO TAKING THESE WITH DECA WILL ACTUALLY MAKE IT HARDER ON YOUR HAIR AND SKIN.

NIZORAL SHAMPOO IS PRETTY EFFECTIVE IT BLOCKS ANDROGENS AT THE RECEPTOR- IT IS A ANTI ANDROGEN- MOST PEOPLE I KNOW USE IT TO GOOD RESULT.

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