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superk
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 28)
posted April 16, 2000 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for superk   Click Here to Email superk     Edit/Delete Message
I am a junior in high school that plays football. I am considering taking 10cc. of sustanon before football season. Am I to young?

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scott825
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 16, 2000 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scott825   Click Here to Email scott825     Edit/Delete Message
Yes definetly,Steroids will stunt your growth
I've seen it happen many times.Drink lots of
protein take creatine(cell tech)take
L-glutamine,Try your best to take in atleast
your bodyweight in protein per grams
150lbs.= 150 grams of protein a day.You will get bigger

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acidsk8
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 16, 2000 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for acidsk8   Click Here to Email acidsk8     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 38969772
most vets on the board will tell you that you should be at least 20 to 21
or it can stunt your growth and cause some other problems
but nobody can make your decision for you
also with creatine and a lot of protien your natural test levels are high enough right now you can make some significant natural gains.

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benzo27
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 16, 2000 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for benzo27   Click Here to Email benzo27     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 61514407
Way too young.. Get serious about lifting first. You have a lot of time to grow naturally. I was abot 5'6 and #150 in junior high, but by the time I was in high school I was 6' 195 and strong too, so wait and it will come

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BigDallas
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted April 16, 2000 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigDallas   Click Here to Email BigDallas     Edit/Delete Message
fuck sust. for your first cycle
your proably to young
but if you do, go with primobolan depot
if you go with sust, you're stupid, but you'll also need clomid for sure!

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superk
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 17, 2000 12:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for superk   Click Here to Email superk     Edit/Delete Message
I want to take a little juice to benefit my career. I am being recruited by several Division 1-A schools, and this would give me an advantage. I am 6'3", 215. I am very lean.

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scott825
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 17, 2000 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scott825   Click Here to Email scott825     Edit/Delete Message
If you really are that dam big & only in Jr.
High what the hell do you need juice for?
Besides if you start that shit now you could be preventing yourself from being
6'6" tall.

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Joseph_stalin
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posted April 17, 2000 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph_stalin   Click Here to Email Joseph_stalin     Edit/Delete Message

hell yes do it. fuck growth. i would give up 2 inches of height for a free college scholarship.

i don't know what works best on the young. ie, long cycles or short. i would assume shorter cycles are better because the sides would be less.


i am thinking of long term shit. i would do it though. check what kind of gainer are you. do an 8 week cycle of sust. and weigh yourself. are you one of the gainers that gains alot in the first 2-4 weeks then the gains slow down, or are you one of the gainers that notices good gains the whole 8 weeks?

if your gains fall off after 2-4 weeks, then after your sust cycle, do a 4 week cycle of propionate & dianabol. then 5 weeks off, then another 4 week cycle with those drugs. you should gain overall 45 lbs. what position are you. defensive end?

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Joseph_stalin
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posted April 17, 2000 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph_stalin   Click Here to Email Joseph_stalin     Edit/Delete Message

to everyone replying to this post, the guy is a junior in high school, he is not in junior high. he is probably 17-18 years old, not 13-15.

but yes i would do it, in a second. free college, more than worth it. tall enough already. go for it.

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Rich1
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posted April 17, 2000 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rich1   Click Here to Email Rich1     Edit/Delete Message
What the hell are you giving advise like that for? He can get everything he needs natch, and don't the schools test for this stuff before handing out free educations for foot ball? If they don't, they should be. Young man don't fuck with your hormones just yet the best may yet be on it's way, for free just eat big, work hard and you'll get there...lol Christ, your already huge enough for your age!

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Joseph_stalin
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posted April 17, 2000 05:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph_stalin   Click Here to Email Joseph_stalin     Edit/Delete Message

i would still do it. get up to 250 or 260 lbs. nothing really bad will happen. bone closure, but you are tall enough already.

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superk
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posted April 17, 2000 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for superk   Click Here to Email superk     Edit/Delete Message
I would like to put on 15-20 pounds that is why I am considering sustanon. I have an older brother who also takes juice, and he is the one who recommended taking sustanon. I am a junior in high school.

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superk
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posted April 17, 2000 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for superk   Click Here to Email superk     Edit/Delete Message
help???

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dude
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posted April 17, 2000 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dude     Edit/Delete Message
I think if it means the difference between getting a scholarship or not it might be a good idea. For instance if your family does not have a lot of money to send you to college then it might be a good idea. However, if you need juice to compete in high school then how are you gonna compete at D1. I would probably wait until you get a scholarship to juice unless you have very little money to go to college. How much do u bench, squat, deadlift right now?

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studcj
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posted April 17, 2000 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for studcj   Click Here to Email studcj     Edit/Delete Message
If your already getting recruited by D-1 as a junior, then you'll most likely get a scholarship to one of those schools granted that you don't slack off, and don't do anything stupid. Obviously they already think your big enough. You should be able to put on another 15lbs naturally before the season as long as you have good work ethic. I am a SR in HS and I decided to put off my first cycle since I'm still making great gains at my age. Tell us how much you lift, and what your workout routine looks like.

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bradley9
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posted April 17, 2000 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bradley9   Click Here to Email bradley9     Edit/Delete Message
I too, started juicing in 11th grade. I played football, baseball, and soccer in highschool. Hell, 1/2 the football team was juicing! Did I get a compeditive edge? I honestly don't think so. I gained weight and got stronger( alot stonger!) I juiced on and off during 12th grade. I stopped playing football in 12th grade because I was the shit in baseball! No need to injure myself in football and not play college Baseball. I was all-state football 11th grade and all-state baseball 11th and 12th grade. I was a pitcher. Received full ride to U.S.C. for baseball. Warning.............. steriods at any age will screw up your joints!!Especially at a young age.(teens!) When your bench and squats go up so dramadically, there is much stress on joints. Long story put short, left elbo blew out(I'm a lefty) Knees shot to hell. Shoulder pains!! I was almost drafted!! Steriods can give you an edge, but will have drawbacks! Could I have accomplished same without juice? Most definately. Did juicing at 16 and 17 screw me and my asperations up, ABSOLUTELY!!!!! DO NOT DO IT. WAIT TILL YOUR OLDER.

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superk
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posted April 17, 2000 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for superk   Click Here to Email superk     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the advice. I am also a lefty, and I pitch. Football is not my only avenue to get into college.

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lexicon
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posted April 17, 2000 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lexicon     Edit/Delete Message
As a former D1 LHP I will tell you that it will only hurt your baseball carear. Height and arm lenghth are more important than size, Long toss, jogging for the mound. Also, big legs for drive. You have plenty of time for this type of fun when your sports carear path is more clear in a few years. Good Luck

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superk
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posted April 17, 2000 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for superk   Click Here to Email superk     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the feedback!

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PhatPat
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posted April 17, 2000 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhatPat   Click Here to Email PhatPat     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 56498003
Alright I say do it. Dont do too much, I would just do enough to get a little boost. Dont do as much as they say to on this site. These guys are bodybuilders, you are still a youngin'. I feel that it would make the difference between getting a scholarship and not. You need to be smart about it, but do it. If I hadnt found Creatine Effervescent or Andro when I was a junior I feel that I wouldnt have gotten my scholarship, by the way I am a senior in high school now and I will be playing next year. It wasnt a matter of not having the skills, it was about not having the strength to get there and the lean looking size. I am convinced that taking andro is like taking AS. I say if you are thinking about taking andro go for the AS. I think it would really help you, and if you arent stupid about it, and not stunt your growth. Also I would like to add, I was getting recruited by about 70% of the major D1's at this time my junior year, but the thing I was lacking was height for my position, so I needed to make up for it with muscle development. I am in my first cycle right now, and I am glad I am doing it.

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susthead
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posted April 17, 2000 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for susthead   Click Here to Email susthead     Edit/Delete Message
if you do it dont do no test do deca and dianabol it doesnt fuck you up like test and you will keep more gains when you come of take it from me

d-bol(naposim,anabol,methandrostenalonum),pronabol-5,bionabol are all good dbol watch for fakes tho...

deca(week) d-bol(day)
200 30mg
200 30mg
200 30mg
200 30mg
200 30mg
200 20mg

take 20mgs tammoxifen per day as you want the quality muscle not the water!

you will get good gains on that cycle for 6 weeks and it wont fuck you up like test, test fucks with your hormones too much , leave it for later.

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superk
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posted April 17, 2000 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for superk   Click Here to Email superk     Edit/Delete Message
How long does deca stay in your system. I was opting for test because it is out of your system fairly quickly.

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Curious
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posted April 17, 2000 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Curious     Edit/Delete Message
Deca has been know to be detectable in someones system for up to 7 years.(in the extreme...at least 1-1/2 years though) If you ever want to pass a drug test I would seriously stay away from that. Plus if you do one cycle you'll do another and then your gonna end up screwing your joints up cause your still growing whether you believe it or not.

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