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zook
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posted April 16, 2000 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zook     Edit/Delete Message
Some have suggested that Armidex can be used to reduce gyno. I know that surgery is the only way to completely eliminate it but I would like to reduce the noticability of it.

What quantities and how long should you take Armidex to reduce Gyno?

Thanks for the input.

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Mr H
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posted April 16, 2000 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr H   Click Here to Email Mr H     Edit/Delete Message
One MG a day for 4 days completly eliminates estrogen from your body.

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SCHNiKEN
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posted April 16, 2000 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SCHNiKEN   Click Here to Email SCHNiKEN     Edit/Delete Message
Im gonna bump this one.. im also interested.. has anyone ever used it.. does anyone have any REAL results?

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susthead
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posted April 16, 2000 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for susthead   Click Here to Email susthead     Edit/Delete Message
ive heard 1 a day for like a month can sort out minor gyno emm but the stuffs so expensive man .

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spoonman
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posted April 16, 2000 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spoonman   Click Here to Email spoonman     Edit/Delete Message
Does it also hinder gains like nolv?

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zook
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posted April 16, 2000 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zook     Edit/Delete Message
Armidex is expen$ive, but if it works to reduce gyno its worth it, right? Does anyone have experience with it for this purpose? I would probably not use it while I'm on a cycle.

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biggmack
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posted April 16, 2000 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for biggmack   Click Here to Email biggmack     Edit/Delete Message
Of course Armidex will hinder your gains, anything that blocks estrogen will hinder your gains. Although estrogen seems to be such a bad thing, it is accountable for some of the mass gains you get in the gorilla roids, like anadrol, dbol. Thus, the use of any estrogen antagonist will hinder your gains, but hey, I'll give up those extra 10lbs on bench press to ditch some bitch tits, eah?

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PhatPat
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posted April 16, 2000 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhatPat   Click Here to Email PhatPat     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 56498003
I am using Arimidex right now, through a prescription from my doctor. The stuff works. I dont think however that Arimidex will hinder gains. It doesnt work like Nolvadex, Nolv. blocks estrogen, it eliminates if from your system. Arimidex I dont think it blocks estrogen, it attacks the buildup of tissue in your chest due to estrogen. It breaks up the gyno in your chest. I dont think it actually has much to do with the amount of estrogen in your body.

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E2
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posted April 16, 2000 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
ARIMIDEX WILL NOT HINDER GAINS

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zook
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posted April 16, 2000 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zook     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Phat Pat, thanks for your reply. That is great news! What kind of dosage/duration did your Doc put you on? How bad was your gyno and how long before you noticed improvements?

Zook

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Jay Z
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posted April 16, 2000 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Z   Click Here to Email Jay Z     Edit/Delete Message
Arimidex will make any bulking cycle a cutting cycle.

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Milk_Man
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posted April 16, 2000 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Milk_Man   Click Here to Email Milk_Man     Edit/Delete Message
Phat Pat, why give out advise when you have no clue how Arimidex works? People are actualy taking you serious. Arimidex prevents your body from forming aromitize enzyme. The enzyme that converts testosterone to estrogen. That way it completely eliminates estrogen. It WILL hinder your gains. Without estrogen, it don't matter how much test you have, you will not build any muscle and feel like shit most of the time. Now this is only with complete estrogen supression. If you get the doseage right it won't be so bad. But it will hinder gains more than something like clomid or nolvadex. Why? because estrogen upregulates AR receptors and increases IGF-1 levels.

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E2
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posted April 16, 2000 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
Where the hell did this bulking cycle become a cutting cycle come from??? what is the scientific evidence behind that???

And i do agree that taking away all estrogen will hinder gains, but we're not doing that if we take arimidex properly, then it won't hinder gains. It's all about knowing your drugs and knowing what you're doing and not blindly taking someone advice.

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PhatPat
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posted April 16, 2000 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhatPat   Click Here to Email PhatPat     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 56498003
I agree with you E2. This is a discussion board and we discuss things. I think someone would be stupid to take the advise of just one person. And yall are right I am not an expert, I am just telling you what I have experienced and what I have been taught. I am taking Arimidex and it is working. My dosage is 2mg daily. It has not seemed to take away from my gains. I was told that it wouldnt effect my gains and it was explained in great detail to me by my doctor how the stuff works. I dont remember what Exactly he said, but it was someone like what I mentioned earlier.

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Primo57
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posted April 17, 2000 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Primo57   Click Here to Email Primo57     Edit/Delete Message
I wish it wasn't so damn expensive though!

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SCHNiKEN
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posted April 17, 2000 02:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SCHNiKEN   Click Here to Email SCHNiKEN     Edit/Delete Message
How did you get a prescription and what country are you in? does insurance pay? very interested please e-mail me..

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crazy duke
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posted April 17, 2000 02:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crazy duke   Click Here to Email crazy duke     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 14
can you get arimidex from you doctors in america

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macrophage69alpha
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posted April 17, 2000 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
arimidex does not completely suppress the production of aromatase at any reasonable dose. it reduces aromatase activity by up to 70%- how they get that number I have no Idea- cytadren is about up to 62%- however the main difference is in the tissues affected- anastrozol causes almost complete suppresion of aromatase in fatty tissues-specifically breast tissue- which is what it is designed for to treat breast cancer in women.
half life is 50hrs
it is mostly metabolized by the liver (85%)
the rest is excreted unchanged in the urine- just a little info.

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SCHNiKEN
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posted April 17, 2000 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SCHNiKEN   Click Here to Email SCHNiKEN     Edit/Delete Message
So just how effective is this stuff has anyone actually seen a difference in their own body from aking this stuff..

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Unity66
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posted April 17, 2000 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unity66   Click Here to Email Unity66     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 70960516
Gonna bump this. Is there a protocol doctors can use to prescribe Armidex in the treatment of gyno? You fellas who have have this prescribed...did insurance pick-up the tab?

Unity66!

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PhatPat
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posted April 17, 2000 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhatPat   Click Here to Email PhatPat     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 56498003
Yes the insurance picked up the tab. And I am in America, so yes it is a prescription here.

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SCHNiKEN
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posted April 17, 2000 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SCHNiKEN   Click Here to Email SCHNiKEN     Edit/Delete Message
What did you tell him to get that prescription.. did you just say doc im deveolping bitch tits and i think arimedex would work.. I thought arimedex was for cancer.. how can the doctor give you a prescription for it if that is not what it is legally prescribable for.. im very interested please reply with more details.

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susthead
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posted April 17, 2000 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for susthead   Click Here to Email susthead     Edit/Delete Message
look the shit is too expensive use tamoxifen guys it doesnt hinder you gains that much

the only time you could justify arimidex is in the last 3 weeks of a pre contest cycle to harden up thats it it costs top doller prob more than all your gear for 6 weeks on the stuff.

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PhatPat
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posted April 17, 2000 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhatPat   Click Here to Email PhatPat     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 56498003
Schinken, forgive the spelling. That is exactely it. You go to him and ask him to prescribe you some Arimidex because you have a bad case of gyno. That worked for me.

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SCHNiKEN
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posted April 17, 2000 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SCHNiKEN   Click Here to Email SCHNiKEN     Edit/Delete Message
thanx ill have to try it let you guys know how it works

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instynct999
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posted April 17, 2000 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for instynct999     Edit/Delete Message
What is a good dosage of Arimidex when using 1 gram/week test...I was thinking 1/4mg EOD, do not obviously want to entirely limit est production...I guess this may be a very individual thing as far as dosage though

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crazy duke
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posted April 18, 2000 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crazy duke   Click Here to Email crazy duke     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 14
i have a little ball in my tits but i don't if i have bitch tits yet how do you know if you should do arimidex or not

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marky
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posted April 18, 2000 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for marky     Edit/Delete Message
All this gyno talk has me nervous about something. For whatever reason, i seem to be comming across tv clips, newspaper blurps, magazine pops on male breast cancer, "the undiscussed male aff;iction". Ive always had lumps with gyno but they have come and gone over 10 years. So what to look for out of the ordinary???

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the truth
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posted April 18, 2000 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for the truth   Click Here to Email the truth     Edit/Delete Message
Schniken, you were curious as to how a doctor can prescribe a med for something other than its recommended use. In the US, a doctor can, at his own discretion, prescribe a medication for "off use" purposes. They won't generally do this with a drug for which prescriptions must be written in triplicate (ie a copy to the DEA), but an enlightened physician should have no problem giving you Arimidex for gyno.

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100acrewoods
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posted April 18, 2000 02:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 100acrewoods   Click Here to Email 100acrewoods     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 30177303
Physicians can pescribe anything to anyone. It is the discretion of the insurance company whether they will cover it or not.

For example, if your GP writes a script for gH, chances are the ins will not cover it. But if your dr. refers you to an endocrinologist and he pescribes it for a "hormonal" condition, then the ins. will pick up the tab for you to get huge.

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