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Author Topic:   Cycle for good gains and low water retention
therealj
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 14, 2000 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for therealj   Click Here to Email therealj     Edit/Delete Message
I have a source who can get pretty much anything I would like to take...My goals are to put on as much size as possible while keeping water retention and gyno to a minumum. I know you guys probably get tired of answering the same questions over and over but I really need some help as this is my first cycle. I was thinking of sus 250 and winny...can you combine the two for one injection? And being my first cycle is it reasonable to expect 20lbs in 8 weeks with sound training & diet...also I would like to know which as I should avoid...thanks to all who take the time to respond

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rippazoid
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 14, 2000 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rippazoid     Edit/Delete Message
sus and equapoise would be a better stack. it depends on your diet and body type if you hold alot of water. however, you can combine both in one shot. just dont use those 250 pre-loads. OUCH!

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Joseph_stalin
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted April 15, 2000 05:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph_stalin   Click Here to Email Joseph_stalin     Edit/Delete Message

avoid dianabol & anadrol if you want to avoid water retention.

i don't know if the level of androgen in a drug is responsible for the water retention. i have heard it is, but dianabol & anadrol are 1/2 as much androgenic as they are anabolic. of course they still give bad side effects that high androgenic drugs tend to give.

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the truth
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posted April 15, 2000 06:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for the truth   Click Here to Email the truth     Edit/Delete Message
You didn't say anything about what kind of doses you're planning on taking to get that 20 lbs on. I think Sust (start w/ 750 and taper to 250), and EQ (300 straight through) is a better stack than Sust and Winny, since you seem to have a source with a wide list. If you do go with the Winny, I don't recommend mixing water and oil. A lot of guys do and have no problem, but the oil in the shot can make the Winny crystals sit around the injection site too long, which can lead to infection. Better safe than sorry.

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therealj
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posted April 15, 2000 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for therealj   Click Here to Email therealj     Edit/Delete Message
thanks

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bignate73
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted April 15, 2000 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bignate73   Click Here to Email bignate73     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 65081685
thanks truth, i had the same question as was posted. killed 2 birds with one stone. heh heh.

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