posted April 13, 2000 12:25 AM            

Clomid eod or ed depending, during the whole cycle. The sust shot as 500mg every three days so it's

more than 1000mg/week more like 1166/week (shot not residual). The deca shot once a week. Dbol every 4

hours. Winny shot 3x a week, para shot 2x a week.
60 mins cardio every morning starting on week 11 with workouts in the evening.
I know i'm a clomid freak but i like it that way.
And i dont' like to go over 400 deca, that's why it's not higher.
Liver helpers all the way through of course.
Blood tests done every two weeks.
Will TRY to eat 6000+ cal per day until 11, then cut back and drop all the fat and water.
Gotta get me some Super Gainers Fuel 3000 cal per shake sounds good!

I know this isn't a crazy cycle, but i've been off for almost 4 years now(shoulder), so i'm basically a newbie

again. I think i should do very well.

What do you all think?

posted April 13, 2000 12:34 AM            

It looks good though - no surprise really - you know what you're doing - I've never used para so when you get to that point I would like to hear how well it works if it's real.

Just a reminder to anyone who uses this cycle as a guide: Liver Helpers!!!

Looks good E2

posted April 13, 2000 12:44 AM            

EAT---EAT---EAT---EAT---EAT---EAT---EAT---EAT

But you already know that. Hey E2, can you share current lean body mass figure and then share the LBM after the cycle? If not, that's cool.

posted April 13, 2000 11:31 AM            

personally i would get bored to death with 60 minutes of cardio

posted April 13, 2000 11:37 AM            

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posted April 13, 2000 12:58 PM            

The anadrol i hate, and i don't wanna do it.

posted April 13, 2000 01:44 PM            

BTW,I was think-n about use-n the Para in the beginning instead of towards the end.E2Any reason why you are do-n the Para towards the end of your cycle?

posted April 13, 2000 03:41 PM            

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posted April 13, 2000 04:00 PM            

you will definately look good
i want pics at the peak of mass and diet

good luck bro
when do you start

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posted April 13, 2000 07:50 PM            

The deca is only there because my shoulders are shit after all the sugury that i've had, and they need it. Without deca my joints hurt like hell when i'm on.

I was thinking about some prop or some suspension, i might add it in, i've still got a few days to decide, i'm going to start on monday.

Thanks everyone!

posted April 13, 2000 07:51 PM            

Heck, I say your going to love it if its been four years.

Late

posted April 13, 2000 07:53 PM            

Oh yeah by the way here is some info I could dig up on Parabolan!

Trenbolone hexahydrobencylcarbonate

Current brand names and companies

There's only one company that makes this compound, and it's sold under the brand name Parabolan. It comes in a blue box containing a 1.5-ml vial yielding 76 mg of the active ingredient.

Historical perspective

Parabolan was first developed in 1962 but wasn't introduced to the market until 1980. Then it was discontinued twice in the early '90s and was just reintroduced in the beginning of 1996. Currently, it's only available through official medical channels in France. However, Northern European bodybuilders will often trade Parabolan with French bodybuilders for oxymetholone or methandrostenolone. It's the most sought-after injectable in Europe. Once its chemical cousin Finaject was discontinued in 1987, Parabolan's popularity soared. The top portion of the new ampoule is much smaller than its predecessor, and the new product doesn't have as strong a scent as the earlier versions of this drug.

Dosage

Bodybuilders and powerlifters normally take two ampoules, or 152 mg, per week. However, many professional bodybuilders have taken as much as two ampoules a day, bringing up the dosage to 1,064 mg a week.

Beneficial effects

� It's both a strength and mass drug and the results are impressive. Will foster additional development in bodybuilders who have adapted to other steroids.
� One of the few androgens that does not aromatize, therefore users are not bothered by feminization characteristics such as gynecomastia, nor are they plagued by extreme water retention.
� Promotes significant muscular hardness when calories are restricted. With males, it along with Primobolan, is a top pre-physique-contest injectable. However, unlike Primobolan, Parabolan cannot be taken year round because of its toxicity.
� Does not cause an increase in blood pressure.
� Does not convert to DHT, therefore does not cause hair loss or severe acne.
� Increased aggressiveness due to its high androgenicity, making it a favorite of strength athletes.

Negative side effects

� Should not be taken for periods longer than 10-12 weeks due to the stress it imposes on the kidneys.
� Like Anadrol, it's only used by the most ambitious female bodybuilders. It's known to cause strong virilization characteristics in females, with most the side effects being irreversible (e.g. voice deepening and clitoral hypertrophy).
� Stressful to the kidneys but not to the liver; it's best to increase water intake when using Parabolan.
� Parabolan is often associated with hypoglycemia, thus many people use it in conjunction with high carb diets and various forms of insulin.
� The activity spectrum of trenbolone is similar to that of 19-nortestosterone or those anabolics that are derived from 19-nortestosterone. The compound has an androgenic effect about three times stronger than testosterone propionate, which also means that the possibility for virilizing effects is strong. The antigonadotropic activity (inhibition of ovulation and testicular growth) of trenbolone acetate far exceeds that of testosterone propionate.

Drugs commonly stacked with parabolan

Powerlifters like to combine it with an injectable form of stanozolol (2-4 mg/kg a week) or with oxandrolone (0.3-0.5 mg/kg per day) when going up a weight class. The gains in strength are appreciable and the gains in size are definitely high-quality, lean muscle mass with this stack.

For rapid weight increases, athletes combined Parabolan with methandrostenolone (0.2-0.6 mg/kg per day) or oxymetholone (0.5-1.5 mg/kg per day). Austrian and German bodybuilders like to combine Parabolan (3-4 ampules a week) with stanozolol (200-400 mg a week) and Oral-Turinabol (0.5 mg/kg per day). There is a stronger German bootleg form of Parabolan, which permits these athletes to have a regular supply.

Because using Parabolan is often associated with hypoglycemia, athletes often combine it with high carb diets and various forms of insulin.

Rating


Mass
****

Strength
*****

Contest preparation
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Safety
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Bootlegs and counterfeits

Mexican counterfeits often contain more than 1.5 ml, and there's also a 4.5-ml, multiple-dose vial, which contains only sesame oil. One is made in Canada and the other one is made in the US. If you get severe acne from it, you're most likely using a counterfeit. There is also a German bootleg form, 10 cc, 100 mg/ml, and a Canadian bootleg version 50 cc, 100 mg/ml.

One rumor on the black market is that the smell of Parabolan is supposed to fill a room, but genuine Parabolan only has a distinct smell at close range.

posted April 14, 2000 01:58 AM            

also...all test is exactly the same except for the release time from tissues due to length of ester used.

good luck.....Tex

posted April 14, 2000 09:55 AM            

Hold on to your shorts!!

Did one nearly identical to this some time ago(except 750sus/350winny sans parab).
Kept a good portion of the gains over a 11/2 yrs out, I think BECAUSE of the length.(and the clomid or course)

Very pretty.

I know it would be a pain but why don't you post some kind of running/weekly commentary on how you're feeling, how you're training is improving etc.

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posted April 14, 2000 10:30 AM            

thanks guys

posted April 14, 2000 12:33 PM            

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