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BigPapaPump Moderator (Total posts: 186) |
posted April 12, 2000 10:05 PM
   Well, I'm prepared to take a beating on this topic but what the hell. Since my pec tear, I have mentally not been willing to lift any really heavy weight. I read an article by one of the Pro slugs, I think it was Priest who advocated lighter weights due to multiple pec tears. I have to honestly say my gains thus far have been great. I am not even close to my old weight or size but since I've been back into the gym I have not gone heavier than 50 lbs (DB's only, never ever a straight bar again). I really concentrate on slow full movements. I feel great and get a better pump than I ever obtained lifting heavy. I have veins jumping out of my pecs that took me months of hard dieting to see before. Anyone else tried this ? CAn an old dog learn a new trick ? BPP IP: Logged |
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chestyII Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 517) |
posted April 12, 2000 10:21 PM
Hey, know exactly what you mean. I had elbow surgery back in Nov '99. I haven't gone heavy on curls since then. But, damn the pumps I get and my arm size has actually increased a little. I think it is because I concentrate more now on the contraction and muscle. I am one with the biceps. It works bro, Heavy only gets you so far, lighter weights and stricter form will get you further when used properly in combination with heavier weights. Train smarter and harder, not heavier and dumber. chesty ------------------ IP: Logged |
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WCP Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 606) |
posted April 13, 2000 02:01 AM
BPP, Congrats on your gains man.. I would guess that if you didnt vary your weight up and down before your tear..it may very well be that your hitting your slow twitch fibers more thoroughly..something your body is not used too. I vary mine about every 4 weeks...and I get the most hellacious pumps on lighter weight. After a week or two..I hit it hard again with even better success. I could be wrong...but thats my guess Bro, Good Luck, WCP ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Sittin' On Diesel Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 282) |
posted April 13, 2000 02:40 AM
If anyone here has been to a physical therapist due to surgery, you should remember the slow reps that they practice. I had knee surgery, and that was the fastest to put on mass on my thigh. I haven't really given it much thought, but they are probably on to something. I ran across a book today, called "Super Slow". Don't know if anyone's read it, or seen it- looks pretty second rate at first. Basically the dude who wrote it says 10 seconds positive, 5 seconds negative reps are the way to roll. I did them with my military press today, just for the hell of it- and IT WAS THE MOST PAIN I HAVE EXPERIENCED on that damn exercise. It felt as if my shoulders were about ready to pop off, and the pain was fucking intense. I did this and on behind the kneck presses, and it was extremely intense. I went about the 6-8 rep mark, and kept strict form while doing 10 seconds positive, 5 seconds negative (no holding at the contraction) (Have someone count for you- it helps). I did about 4 sets of this after I busted my balls doing my usual weight on the military press (just wanted to make sure my shoulders got worked today). I suggest that everyone give this an honest try, I think those damn physical therapists were on to something. IP: Logged |
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spoonman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 128) |
posted April 13, 2000 03:32 AM
I know exactly what you mean bro. Going slow feels real great. Just tonight I was watching some skinny dude doing seated rows with 300+ lbs. If his lats saw any of that workout I'm a fucking idiot. It was all lower back and arms. Picture it - leaning back all the way, bending at low back, and then quickly jerking arms back. Waste of time, might as well go home and jerk off its more productive. Alot of times I will go low & slow to get a great pump. Breaks up the monotony and feels great. I don't give a fuck about the dudes looking at the low weight because half these fucks do their exerc's wrong just to say they put up xxxx lbs. Nothing funnier than seeing a dude quickly jerk up 60 lbs db's using all back and shoulders and then flex in the mirror thinking his bi's got a workout. stay with this for a while especially because of the injury and you'll be amazed. sp IP: Logged |
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Sittin' On Diesel Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 282) |
posted April 13, 2000 04:06 AM
Well weight doesn't matter to me. If controlled form, lighter weight, and slower reps mean muscle growth- then I'm all for it. Yeah, I know what you mean about the fools doing rows. You see them moving their legs, arms- fuck they're whole body! I love it when they do the seated rows. I walked up to this one dude, and said- man, your lats aren't that strong (The dude had no lats). He's like yeah they are, I'm doing them- right? I just rolled my eyes and mumbled- are you trying to get smaller? Weight can be a good goal, but not at the expense of controlled form that ISOLATES the muscle group you're trying to work. I'm not mad at those people, they're ignorant fucks. But it's pretty sad when they start talking shit. They'll be lifting the same weights with the same fucked up ass form, having the same body as they did before. [This message has been edited by Sittin' On Diesel (edited April 13, 2000).] [This message has been edited by Sittin' On Diesel (edited April 13, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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Mr H Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 181) |
posted April 13, 2000 01:05 PM
BPP, are you doing high repitition sets as if you were trying to get cut or you're sticking to 4 sets of 10 (and so forth)? IP: Logged |
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BiffBoom Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 138) |
posted April 14, 2000 10:02 AM
I'm a physical therapist and I love to throw in some low weight high reps crap. It's all about time under tension..and it works big time. I still need to lift heavy though for my strength. IP: Logged |
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cockdezl Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 18) |
posted April 16, 2000 01:45 PM
Read the articles by Poliquin. He gives research that shows that hypertrophy is greater with reps in the 6-12 range, while lower reps are more for neural training. Also, higher than 12 reps increases the energy storage capacity of muscles; i.e. glycogen storage, phosphagen formation, etc. IP: Logged |
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Karate guy Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 164) |
posted April 16, 2000 02:17 PM
Well, in my training I find myself habitually in the higher rep lighterweight anyways and it works for me. IP: Logged |
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Ice Man Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 74) |
posted April 16, 2000 02:47 PM
Ok, I follow on the slow twitch, fast twitch fiber thing but think about this. With lower weights and higher reps as long as you are going to failure does the muscle really know the difference. I don't think so. All the muscle is going to do is recruit as many fibers as possible to move the weight. Just a thought. Opinions? IP: Logged |
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Slim Whitman Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 95) |
posted April 16, 2000 07:40 PM
I don't think anyone can argue with any of that. Everybody should do what works for them but the majority of the people in the gym I'm at wouldn't know proper form if it hit them in the face!! You guys see plenty of that too, I'm sure. I personally train heavy with low reps, but don't sacrifice weight for form. I tend to "forget" to mention the form part of it. To me, and others, it's been taught and stressed early on, so it just comes naturally, without thought. Slim IP: Logged |
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BigPapaPump Moderator (Total posts: 186) |
posted April 16, 2000 09:38 PM
I'll rep in the 12 to 14 per range and always try to superset everything. BPP IP: Logged |
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