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 E2 and 2thick cycle debate
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jocko Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 78) |
posted April 12, 2000 09:56 PM
 
On a few posts lately 2thick says E2's cycles will kill you. Well 2thick, what do you recommend. And why? The same goes for E2.Why do you recommend the dosages you post all the time, on the Sust,Deca,D-bol and clomid cycle?(cause I'm really interested in that cycle). I'm not flameing anybody, I just want to do whats right. There has to be a reason for everything. IP: Logged |
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BigDallas Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 63) |
posted April 12, 2000 10:01 PM
yeah...and i believe one of you said no test for newbies. What would you reccomend for newbies? i think this would be good deca/d-bol and primo for 4 weeks primo and winstrol for 4 weeks.... (lots of primo, not so much deca or d-bol) a bunch of clomid for afterwards and some creatine and glutamine wouldn't hurt>>> IP: Logged |
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BigPapaPump Moderator (Total posts: 185) |
posted April 12, 2000 10:10 PM
YOu guys need to realize that everyone has a different opinion, kinda like assholes, everyone has one. None of us are all seeing experts for everyone. What works for E2 might not work for 2thick and vs. versa. Your own level of previous usage plays a giant role on how any cycle will effect you. My advice is to do your own research and come up with your own opinions. Ask for advice before you make a mistake but apply it to your own needs. BPP IP: Logged |
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jocko Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 78) |
posted April 12, 2000 10:18 PM
All I want Is the reasoning behind what they say. And there OPINIONS, thats why I asked the question. IP: Logged |
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E2 Moderator (Total posts: 2304) |
posted April 13, 2000 12:07 AM
I am a lover of test, i will always like test, it works well for me and the feeling is incredible, besides it's what's making you grow right now. As you're sitting here reading it's running through your body right now, it's there just add more and watch yourself grow! I do not like 2thicks cycles, just as he does not like mine. I think his are too weak and he things mine will kill you. Well no one has ever died of a steroid overdose. The doses i recommend are not high in my eyes and they work very well on all the people i prescribe them too. As BPP said it's all abot opinion and what you want out of it, i want balls out agression and growth! We all do this to be bigger, stronger and to feel incredible. I love the feeling of test, and not much else beats it. I'm not a drug user, and i dont' drink, smoke or do anything else except ghb and hormones. I'm healthy as a horse and the doses that i take have had no adverse affects on me. I recommend my cycles because they work. I've taken several people through them and have seen nothing but smiles on their faces. I even have a few people who after a few cycles have decided to stop because they're happy with themselves the way they are now and just are playing the maintenance game. You also run into biological individuality, what works for me might not work for you basically. So you have to go and try things out, and see what works for you. Take your time, do your research and listen to your body always! The sust deca dbol is a basic solid cycle, good gains and smiles all round. The reasoning for each cycle is different now if you want to talk about specific cycles we can do that, just mail me. IP: Logged |
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jocko Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 78) |
posted April 13, 2000 07:30 PM
Thanks for you reply E2! I'm about the same size as you 6'2" 244lbs. body fat? I can't quite see my abs but it's getting close. All I wanted was your opinion and I got It,Thank you. For my first cycle, IT will be Sust. Deca and D-bol, its just a matter of time. IP: Logged |
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The Ranger Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 611) |
posted April 13, 2000 07:51 PM
E2, That is as good a solid answer you can find.....! Ranger IP: Logged |
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TexFlex Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 53) |
posted April 14, 2000 02:23 AM
E2 Test is good...no doubt...I think your doses could be moderated but even at that it wont kill you as fast as tylenol and alcohol. Late Tex ------------------ IP: Logged |
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conan69 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 494) |
posted April 14, 2000 08:29 AM
I think his doses are just fine 2thicks cycles are mild alot of people who have cycles for a couple of years would take E2's for breakfast and come back for more at lunch if you want to play with the BIG BOYS then you have to SHOOT like the big boys i support E2's cycle 100% ------------------ IP: Logged |
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the truth Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 372) |
posted April 14, 2000 09:21 AM
Conan, you made a good point about E-2's cycles being moderate, and yes, 2-Thick's are definitely on the mild side. I think that the basic cycles both these guys advocate are valid and have merit for different users and perhaps users with different goals. I personally feel test is best, but I've made decent and permanent gains off of milder EQ/Primo cycles in the past. There's more than one way to skin a cat, and this debate, I think, has driven that point home. IP: Logged |
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Ice Man Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 55) |
posted April 14, 2000 09:41 AM
This is a great debate. I have chosen to go 2thick's route as my first cycle for a reason that was stated in E2's thread below. E2 said paraphrasing "You have to listen to your body. What works for one may not work for another." I figure if I start out on the mild side with Deca, Primo and Clomid and do ok then for my second I will do up the AS ladder to Sus, DBol and Deca. Once again Bros, take a moment and appreciate what a great discussion forumn this place really is. Thanks for a great board! IP: Logged |
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jocko Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 78) |
posted April 14, 2000 11:54 AM
One of the main reasons that I brought this up is that in my research BB's "say your first cycle is your best", " I wish I would have done my first cycle different", or "you don't make the gains like your first cycle" So with that, in my opinion, you might as well do a good solid anabolic-androgenic cycle the first time. YOU ONLY GET ONE FIRST TIME! So I'll do the E2 way. IP: Logged |
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SCHNiKEN Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 102) |
posted April 14, 2000 01:08 PM
I think they both are good cycles it depends on just how far your going to take this and what yout goals are for doing steroids. IP: Logged |
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Arnian Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 18) |
posted April 14, 2000 01:24 PM
Bump! E2 knows his stuff. I think the guys who advocate "mild" mcycles are just setting people up to be dissapointed with the results. When we all started this we thought steroids were a magic bullet that will make you grow no matter what, the more you learn the more you realize it's not that simple.....a lot of new users are worried about side effects, well you can go pretty crazy on the juice and never see any side effects, especially with injectable test....as long as you stay away from long termhigh-dose use of oral steroids you shouldn't have any sides, and I agree with higher doses....they are more effective. I've injected in one day what some people use in a 2 month "cycle"...maybe they got some gains, but if you want the effect most newbies think the juice has (dramatic muscle growth), you have to hit it heavy, and lift hard and eat correctly, or you won't get the results you're hoping for. IP: Logged |
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MC Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 173) |
posted April 14, 2000 04:18 PM
Well Ice Man I am doing the opposite. I am going for E2s Sust/Dbol/Deca stack. It looks big to me and even people I know who do gear regularly say it is too big for me. But fuck it, I trust him and I am gonna do it how he says. And when I am bigger than the disbelievers I may pass on the advice!!!! And if I die I dare say I won't care either :-P Later
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