posted April 12, 2000 07:17 PM            

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I'm just comming off of a diet phase using the Bodyopus diet (got down to 6.5%, but lost some lbm) and I want ot bulk up but keep the fat gain to a minum so I figure if my body is all about burning ketones that a higher fat intake for the bulking cyle will partially keep me in ketosis and keep some of the fat off. I don't think it really matters what gear I'm on but if you need to know post me. Any responses are greately appreciated.

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posted April 13, 2000 01:01 AM            

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You can't be partially in ketosis. It takes 48 hrs of no carbs to get into ketosis (unless you speed the process w/ insulin). The Isocaloric Diet is probably OK for mass on a cycle though.

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posted April 13, 2000 10:10 AM            

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Actually any diet that has less than 100g of carbs will qualify as a keogenic diet. However, you aren't in ketosis all the time most likely just when you are sleeping when no carbs are comming in.

Has anyone used an Isocaloric diet while on the gear, if so let me know how it worked for you.

thanks!!!

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posted April 14, 2000 01:54 PM            

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Does anyone else have an comment on this approach, PLEASE!!!!!!

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posted April 15, 2000 11:51 AM            

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Anybody else have any suggestions?? I don't want to screw up my next bulking cycle because I'm on the wrong diet, but I've read articles form Duchaine that said a higher fat content produces greater strength gains which would in turn equal greater mass gains. Thoughts??

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posted April 15, 2000 07:53 PM         

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The Isocaloric diet or a Zone-type diet will not keep you anywhere near ketosis, since the carb intake is too high. Dan advocated the Isocaloric diet, because he didn't like the idea of high cal/low fat diets, which in some increases the capacity of the body to oxidize protein for fuel. If the body begins to oxidize protein for energy, then one requires higher protein intakes for growth and repair. With a higher percentage fat intake (and not just any fat, but primarily omega-3's) the body has an alternative source of energy allowing for the protein that you intake to be used for growth and repair.

With a Iso-type diet, you can't eat 4000-7000 calories, like some advise on high cal/low fat diets. The higher fat intake will increase the capacity to store fat, but it has better anabolic potential, so calories should not be alot higher than maintenance, maybe 20%.

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posted April 15, 2000 11:37 PM            

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Thanks good reply. Anybody have any experience with Iso and Roids???

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