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  STEROIDS do not work on me! whats up?

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Author Topic:   STEROIDS do not work on me! whats up?
drago
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 33)
posted April 12, 2000 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for drago     Edit/Delete Message
OK guys, my first cycle was 2cc cyp. a week (200 mg) for around 10 weeks and i drank 2cc of reforvit-b in middle of cycle out to end and i gained nothing.(i know the stuff was legit, my buddy used the same stuff) I thought maybe the doses were too small so for my present cycle i am taking 500 mg sost. a week for 3 weeks then 250/week for 4 more. I added in 150 mg of EQ every 3 days at week 4 to an extended out week 11. I am in week 5 right now and i havent gained anything. The sust is the redijects from Organon and are promised to be legit by the supplier. Am i just screwed or is there anyone out there who has experienced this? Solutions? Im 23 yrs. old and 215. Believ me i eat like a horse.

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LEVIATHON
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 12, 2000 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEVIATHON   Click Here to Email LEVIATHON     Edit/Delete Message
Do you lift weights?

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drago
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 12, 2000 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for drago     Edit/Delete Message
Your pretty funny, 6 days on 1 off, smartass

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onlythestrong
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted April 12, 2000 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for onlythestrong   Click Here to Email onlythestrong     Edit/Delete Message
The only way not to grow on AS is if they are fake, you should gain some weight with 500 mg/wk of sus.
Try the freezer test on the sus, if legit, try 1gm or more/wk of sus

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BigPapaPump
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posted April 12, 2000 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigPapaPump   Click Here to Email BigPapaPump     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 39254017
Man it has to be your diet. Write down what you eat, you might be surprised at what you are actually eating compared to what you think a horse is. I'd even be inclined to think that you gear is shit. Wk 5 @ 500mg/wk should have given you something. 6 days on and 1 off is too much training too, cut it back a bit until you get the 'buzz' from the gear.

BPP

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jc21
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted April 12, 2000 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jc21   Click Here to Email jc21     Edit/Delete Message
Zulak and Duchaine both said that some people just dont grow on AS. you might be one of those people and it sucks, or maybe you just need to take extreme amounts of the sauce.

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saucey
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 12, 2000 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for saucey   Click Here to Email saucey     Edit/Delete Message
I feel for you, man. have you used steroids in the past?, and have they ever worked for you? maybe your receptors are burnt out. if your juice is legit, the only thing that you need to grow is nutrition and training, and a little sleep. steroids don't work on everybody, i have a friend that has cycled 2 or 3 times with no results, but he eats at mcdonalds every day.

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Greg
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posted April 12, 2000 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Greg   Click Here to Email Greg     Edit/Delete Message
It sounds like mayby your diet isnt enough write down what you are eating. I agree with these guys your gear might be shit. Also you are working out to much try less. What you put into your cycle youll get out of it so if you are not eating enough sleeping enough or not working out hard when you work out then you need to try something new or change up your schedule.

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EXTREMEPOWER
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 13, 2000 01:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EXTREMEPOWER     Edit/Delete Message
sounds like the gear is crap and you are probably overtraining..i agree with the guys, you should check the diet..if you think youare eating enough, then eat more

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G
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posted April 13, 2000 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for G     Edit/Delete Message
I personally think the shit you have recieved is all fake, I work in a hospital and patience that are on the death bed gain atleast 8 pounds of muscle over 8 weeks when using 1 amp of sustanon 250. I would suggest the stuff is fake, my suggestion is go see your doctor, get him to give you a blood test and ask hijm to test for the juice that you took

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The_Blond_Myth
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posted April 13, 2000 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The_Blond_Myth   Click Here to Email The_Blond_Myth     Edit/Delete Message
just because your buddy grew off it doesn't mean it ain't fake. There is always the placebo effect when you inject something.

LP

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CRAZY in ALABAMA
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posted April 13, 2000 01:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CRAZY in ALABAMA   Click Here to Email CRAZY in ALABAMA     Edit/Delete Message
possibly overtraining? its hard to do on a.s. but its even harder to understand sometimes less is more.

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Joseph_stalin
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posted April 13, 2000 01:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph_stalin   Click Here to Email Joseph_stalin     Edit/Delete Message

go up to 1 g sust a week. also you might want to try insulin after you learn alot about it. insulin works independent of the androgen receptor, so if steroids don't work insulin still should. combine it with a high androgen drug like a testosterone ether.

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susthead
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posted April 13, 2000 04:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for susthead   Click Here to Email susthead     Edit/Delete Message
the gear got must be fake man.. everone grows with sustanon .

even 250mg a week should make ya grow

try using primo depot or deca with it.

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Pops
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 55)
posted April 13, 2000 06:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pops   Click Here to Email Pops     Edit/Delete Message
dude, before you start taking 1000mg of test a week, before you test it to see if its real, before you start injecting insulin, look at your diet, make sure you are getting enough rest, and dont train so much. Why is the typical answer to "up the dosages"? anabolic steroids should be used as an addition to good nutrition, diet and training, not the other way around!

-Pops

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Deepsquat
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posted April 13, 2000 06:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deepsquat   Click Here to Email Deepsquat     Edit/Delete Message
I vote on the Triple Crown!! Your diet is shit your gear is fake,and you are over training!

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Karate guy
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posted April 13, 2000 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Karate guy   Click Here to Email Karate guy     Edit/Delete Message
The gear has to be bad, at least a good portion of it. Shit, steroids are like a miracle drug!

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airtyme
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted April 13, 2000 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for airtyme   Click Here to Email airtyme     Edit/Delete Message
Things that can restrict your gains:

1. The wrong kind of diet
2. Not enough sleep (atleast 8 hours a night)
3. Too much cardio
4. OVERTRAINING- if your muscles do not get enough rest, they will not grow.

I know when I cut my workouts in half, I started growing. I now do 1 muscle group per workout. Each muscle group gets worked out once a week. My workouts are about 45 minutes to an hour. That is it. The gains have never been better

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Villan
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posted April 13, 2000 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Villan   Click Here to Email Villan     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 67120732
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my first cycle was 2cc cyp. a week (200 mg) for around 10 weeks

You should grow on just that cycle right there. I agree with everyone on the board about your diet and training. Keep in mind that if you were dieting and training correctly like you should, you WILL grow without steroids. I believe something is wrong there. How much protein do you eat? Do you eat clean? Protein from a Double Whopper at Burger King isn't necessarily good protein as opposed to baked or grilled poultry or fish.

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Sittin' On Diesel
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posted April 13, 2000 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sittin' On Diesel   Click Here to Email Sittin' On Diesel     Edit/Delete Message
Something is amuck.

Bed-ridden hospital patients put on lean body mass while on the sauce.

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drago
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 13, 2000 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for drago     Edit/Delete Message
Hey guys, im thinking it has to be the fake shit because though i train 6 on one off i only train one bodypart a day and on wedensday i only due abs,calves, hams, so i really dont count that day as being tuff. I really do eat alot and of quality protein from chicken, lean beef, and tuna. I also drink 3 shakes a day and those alone supply 150 grams of whey protein. I just dont believ it, i thought sostenon redijects from Organon were the least likely to be fakes. This is really depressing, if i cant grow off Sust. what the hell can i grow off of?

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Sittin' On Diesel
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posted April 13, 2000 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sittin' On Diesel   Click Here to Email Sittin' On Diesel     Edit/Delete Message
It would have to be fake. I know that really sucks ass to have fake shit, but godbless the USA for having such wonderful laws. Yeah I thoght redijects were pretty hard to fake- but hmmmm... talk to your source and see what the hell is up. I would go with someone else, if I were you.

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LEVIATHON
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posted April 13, 2000 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEVIATHON   Click Here to Email LEVIATHON     Edit/Delete Message
If sust doesnt work for you, try something stronger, like Growth. Sure itll make your skull, jaw, heart, and bones grow but hell so will your muscles!

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Andru Genic
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posted April 13, 2000 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Andru Genic   Click Here to Email Andru Genic     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 63347870
Were your redi's still in the blister pack when you got em?

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gorilla daddy
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 14, 2000 03:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gorilla daddy   Click Here to Email gorilla daddy     Edit/Delete Message
>I really do eat alot and of quality protein >from chicken, lean beef, and tuna. I also >drink 3 shakes a day and those alone supply >150 grams of whey protein.

Dude, you're not eating enough. Think calories, not protein. PROTEIN IS NOT THE LIMITING FACTOR!!!! Sure, get your 300g of protein. But think 6000+ calories a day. You're probably eating 3000-4000, max. Bump it up! If you pencil necks want to get big, you have to eat BIGGER!!!

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gorilla daddy
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posted April 14, 2000 03:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gorilla daddy   Click Here to Email gorilla daddy     Edit/Delete Message
OK, before you tweakers start harping "but I eat a lot, Mr. Gorilla, I probably eat 6000+ calories..."

Listen up amp freak, EAT MORE! Whatever you're eating isn't enough. EAT MORE! And I don't mean touchy-feely, oooh my tummy is sore, I'm really full, I mean EAT MUCH MORE. Figure out exactly how much you're eating and systematically EAT MORE.

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gorilla daddy
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posted April 14, 2000 03:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gorilla daddy   Click Here to Email gorilla daddy     Edit/Delete Message
Reminds me of fat people that say "I really don't eat very much at all..." Well, whatever they're eating IT'S TOO MUCH!

AND YOU'RE NOT EATING ENOUGH!

Shit, you don't even need gear to get big. I'm training guys, went from 175 to 225 in a year. No gear!!!

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