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Primo_man
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posted April 12, 2000 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Primo_man   Click Here to Email Primo_man     Edit/Delete Message

Read about these in Mesomorphesis and was wondering if any one tried it and what results you got, or just give me your opnion. They are claiming you can put on 15 lb and not shut down your axis.

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Primo_man
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posted April 14, 2000 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Primo_man   Click Here to Email Primo_man     Edit/Delete Message
Hasen't anyone tried one of these Cycles?????

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Joseph_stalin
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posted April 14, 2000 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph_stalin   Click Here to Email Joseph_stalin     Edit/Delete Message

there are many variables at stake there. for one thing, some people make really good gains the first 2-3 weeks, then the gains stop coming after that, even if they are on for 10 weeks.

some people don't start to notice gains until week 5. so if you are in the former group you probably won't benefit much from a 2 week cycle.

also on the meso cycle, the guy took clomid the whole way through his cycle. and he took omandren, dianabol & prohormones post cycle to increase test levels and lower cortisol.

so basically, the 15 lbs. is probably a "best of the best" case scenario. a normal person might get 8-10 lbs. on a 2 week cycle.

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CalKid
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posted April 14, 2000 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CalKid   Click Here to Email CalKid     Edit/Delete Message
I've done the 3 week cycle deal -- well, actually, I'm just finishing it up. (It's hard to do a 2 week cycle unless you use ALL short acting drugs). For week one I took an amp of primotest (200mg enanthate, 50mg prop) every other day for a total of 750mg. I then used a couple of dbol and some fina (only short acting drugs I had sitting around here) with clomid EOD. I started week 3 today and I'm up about 6lbs and I have noticably dropped some bodyfat (probably due to the t3 and clen that I'm also taking and forgot to mention.) So, if you calculate the increase in bodyweight with the decrease in bodyfat, I'd say it's very possible and realistic to gain 10lbs of muscle in three weeks without shutting down your natural test down. So far, zero acne (usually gets kinda bad at the end of my 8-10 week traditional cycles) and zero noticable side effects. I hope that was helpful. Now someone please read my post "Need help designing winny/eq/fina cycle" and help me out!

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the truth
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posted April 15, 2000 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for the truth   Click Here to Email the truth     Edit/Delete Message
CalKid, that's the right way to do it. I advocate a higher dose on the front load, but otherwise OK. 6 lbs total gain along w/ fat loss is decent for this cycle.

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The_Blond_Myth
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posted April 15, 2000 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The_Blond_Myth   Click Here to Email The_Blond_Myth     Edit/Delete Message
That short cycle theory is bullshit. What actually are you preventing by staying on for only two weeks? Take clomid if you want your nuts to stay on track. If you can handle it for 2 weeks you can handle it for 8. I used to think short cycles would be a good idea, but it is just a waste of time. Short cycles are a yo-yo effect. why take 3 steps forward and one back when you can take 10 steps forward and one back.

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the truth
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posted April 15, 2000 03:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for the truth   Click Here to Email the truth     Edit/Delete Message
Blond Myth, short cycles do work, but there is a specific protocol that must be followed. I used 3wks on/2 wks off, followed by 2 wks on/2-3 wks off, then repeat. It's done more for convenience when cycling on a long-term basis than to prevent HPTA shutdown (clomid is part of the protocol I used). I'm currently on a conventional 8-wk cycle, but I probably will use the short cycle again.

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nbk
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posted April 15, 2000 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nbk   Click Here to Email nbk     Edit/Delete Message
you�re all missing a point on the two week cycle shit, which I think is the most important one... it�s the fact that you keep a great part of your gains. This has two main reasons, one is the mentioned earlier (the fact that your system don�t shut down), and the other one is that modest gains are easier for the body to handle.... there�s a big difference with adding for eg 30lbs than only 8lbs for eg. try reading the nelson montana article titled "steroids for health"


In my opinion adding a few lbs once in a while, so that people don�t notice a fucking fast change is great, they can�t really acuse you of being on the sauce for going up a few lbs a few times a year, just go for loose clothes and you�ll be ok.

these short cycles have great benefits to have your body go few lbs over your natural limit, but for the bb who�s thinking of 300lbs+ forget it.

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Primo_man
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posted April 15, 2000 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Primo_man   Click Here to Email Primo_man     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the input guys!!! Anybody else have any experience with a 2 weeker?? How about some more Guru coments.

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Primo_man
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posted April 15, 2000 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Primo_man   Click Here to Email Primo_man     Edit/Delete Message
Anyone else???

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Joseph_stalin
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posted April 16, 2000 05:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph_stalin   Click Here to Email Joseph_stalin     Edit/Delete Message

i knew someone who gained 5 lbs. off a 2 week cycle. it is a personal biological thing though. just hope you aren't one of those people who doesn't start to notice anything from drugs until the 5th week. hopefully you are someone whose gains build up rapidly the first few weeks then burn off and don't come very fast the rest of the cycle.

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