posted April 12, 2000 12:52 PM            

Now, if I only get to trace it to the modem (dial-up scenario) I can always just call the ISP in question and ask who dialed into that modem during that time and find out who/where you are.

posted April 12, 2000 09:25 PM            

Every time you dial into your ISP you get the IP of the modem (ISP's not yours) that recieves your call. Translation: unless your ISP has only one recieving modem chances are good that your IP will change each time you dial in.

Network solutions is a registry service who also has a whois service. The whois service allows you to do a reverse look up to find out who owns which URL.

posted April 12, 2000 10:04 PM            

I know your IP won't change. This is easily solved though. Have a mod, who knows someone has a dial-up account and look at his post/reply from one day and look at another from a week prior.

posted April 12, 2000 10:13 PM            

DSL isn't a dial-up Buck. As such your IP is either DHCP'ed or is static. This must be the source of your confusion.

posted April 12, 2000 10:19 PM            

Addresses are not in fact endless. Otherwise IPv6 wouldn't be rolling out. Sheesh.

Lets just take this off-line. E-mail me and we'll talk.

Or not, I could care less.

posted April 12, 2000 10:25 PM            

Buck, are you saying that ICQ is good? Nope...

If you know your way around the net, then upon sending an ICQ message, you can netstat the message to find out the recieving IP, from there, you can nbtstat the computer to get a name table, and with the name table you can net view the shares on the machine (assuming there are any), and with that info, you can usually get a name (a lot of people use their names when they post shares...)

Now with the rest of the IP, you can usually do a whois, or gather info about the ISP which will give you a general town, or area of where the caller is.

Now you have a name, and a general area of where someone is from...all from lovely ICQ (which you can also do from emails)...

Its really not that difficult and usually just reading the headers of emails will give all that information up...

If an ISP has a finger account running, then that makes it all the more simple...but very few ISP's still leave their finger info running...

Usually IP information keeps you relatively safe, however, with the abundance of hacking material on the net, it would be easy for someone to break into your computer, and it would be even easier for feds to get information on you.

Even with a DHCP server, your IP's and accesses are logged, so you are never really hidden, unless you can spoof your IP. With my ISP, my IP's are leased to me for a couple days before they change...

Good luck, hope I helped...

Oh, one more thing, if you do use ICQ and want to keep your messages a little more hidden, try and send them through the ICQ server, that way, the IP information is from the server, not directly from you. Or try Yahoo IM...

posted April 12, 2000 10:28 PM            

Again, take it to e-mail. I'm interested in learning why in heaven you'd be getting encrypted addresses. Since clicking on properties to view the e-mail will show you the originating server and from there it's a quick whois to get the rest.
But seriously, I'm a blank page....fill me in. But take it to e-mail.

posted April 13, 2000 06:33 PM            

let us address your ignorance:
an isp has something called a "pool" of
ip addresses give to it from it's upstream
provider, usually in 256 addresses increments
(class c) these are doled out by an dhcp
server one by one to people dialing into
the isp. when you disconnect from your isp
your computer tells the dhcp server to release your ip address back into the "pool"
to be used by the next guy who dials in.
you can get a "static" ip address for a dial
up connection by most isp's but they almost
ALWAYS charge for this service because it
limits the total amount of addresses in the
pool.
you may try to argue with me but it will not
work, I will tell you a little about myself.
I was systems/network administrator for an
isp called Sparknet Interactive, which
by the way just so happens to be the second
biggest email listserver IN THE WORLD!

just my 2cents
LOL

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"conan, what is best in life?"
"TO CRUSH YOUR ENEMIES, TO SEE THEM DRIVEN BEFORE YOU, AND TO HEAR THE LAMENTATION OF THE WOMEN!!!"

posted April 13, 2000 06:52 PM            

deltman

posted April 13, 2000 08:58 PM            

Buck, I think that once again you've had your dick pushed into the mud and trying to extract it by being deregatory clearly isn't working, so let me help you out:

I offer to you a challenge. I happen to run a small e-mail server on zyx.net. Please post me a complete list of users who utilize this server and I will (at least) know that you're being honest about what you do for a living.

By the way, most e-mail servers don't encrypt their users. So again your tirade about how awesome you are for decrypting e-mail addresses is just incredible (and by incredible I'm not refering to the colloquial use of the word).

posted April 13, 2000 10:09 PM            

to answer Deltmans question: the only way
that the feds can *read* your email is if
they are waiting for it when it is sent and
they intercept it. At that point it is my
belief that they could probably decrypt just
about any email. The way to get around that
is to AVOID attracting their attention in
the first place.
oh yea, also they could *ask* your isp to
forward copies of all email to you, to them.
like I said, just don't give them a reason
to be attracted to you.

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eFiGy

"conan, what is best in life?"
"TO CRUSH YOUR ENEMIES, TO SEE THEM DRIVEN BEFORE YOU, AND TO HEAR THE LAMENTATION OF THE WOMEN!!!"

posted April 13, 2000 10:42 PM            

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eFiGy

"conan, what is best in life?"
"TO CRUSH YOUR ENEMIES, TO SEE THEM DRIVEN BEFORE YOU, AND TO HEAR THE LAMENTATION OF THE WOMEN!!!"

posted April 14, 2000 07:26 AM            

deltman

posted April 14, 2000 09:33 AM            

internet calling instead of email?
www.dialpad.com